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The "early nineties" was some 25-ish years ago, but I can say I don't remember any "picture" having a 'story' with it giving details about how this...

Why does the ATA handicap reduction system become "unfair" past the "27" ??????? Why should anyone closer than the "27" have to shoot the required...

You can not judge a "handicap" system by ONE Event ...... Add up ALL the "earned yardage" from the "27" for the year and see what that tells you...

OK ..... Then what would it matter if you apply the "feel" logic to everything ..... The next time you have to slow down because someone "feels" the...

Until everyone gets serious about enforcement, any "changes" will not get a lot of mileage ...... Before the "rule-book" included Mulligans, there...

The problem is this ..... "wanting to shoot where I feel I belong" ..... Why have ANY system if people can just "FEEL" whatever they want ?????????...

That reminds me of what someone told me long ago about Trapshooting ..... They said, "If you go to a shoot and shoot targets only or just the Lewis...

I can see that the "Martin's money" has not helped, and will not help anything in the future other than "propping up Sparta" ..... And, I have no...

"Can registered trapshooting be saved?" ..... maybe ..... Can the "ATA" be saved ????? ..... NO ..... If getting rid of the 18 yard-line handicap is...

I don't think so ..... You have to keep all the puzzle pieces together to see the whole picture ...... Any ATA shoots, held in any location, will...

Look at post number 2 or post number 571 on this thread ...... Not sure if it is still accurate ......

ol'N1H1 is going to learn how to "play nice". A threat from N1H1 ..... "No, I threatened to sue if patently libelous postings continues to appear...

The score sheet ...... How it works trumps how it should work ......

I have had luck with a shorter LOP when going to a higher rib .... having a somewhat equal increase in the drop at heel as the decreased LOP doesn't...

I agree, it can ...... Some critique the ATA for not using modern communication avenues currently available ...... The same communication avenues are...

To create a optimal handicap "system", you need understand "knowledge vs wisdom" ...... "knowledge is a tool, and wisdom is the craft in which the...

Are you asking about "Events", or the "system" ?????? Two different questions .....

There is not a need to re-invent the wheel ...... Just re-balance it to stay on the road ...... So, "events available" doesn't need to change ......

I feel I owe the next generation of Trapshooters as much hard work as those who put in hard work before me ..... Having said that, I feel "saving...

The same way as it has worked in past Trapshooting, and works in many other Hobby/Sports ..... As has been beat to death, I can not go compete at a...

Why not create a long over due "Pro Class" ????? If you are better at OUR HOBBY/SPORT, you are welcome to my lunch money ...... If you want me to...

When it got to the point of shooting against Full-Time Pro Shooters ..... Shooting under the protection of the ATA ..... Things like eliminating the...

If you wait until ol'N1H1 gets over being pissed-off, he will be quick to point out that the "Clubs" refuse to throw wider angles "allowed" by the...

I agreed with that 10 years ago, but not now ..... There seems to be no bottom point for the ATA to change direction ..... The leaders of the ATA...

The ATA has less interest in governing a class system than a yardage system ..... You need only to look here ........

I wonder if the idea of additional yardage would gain traction if it were added straight back, and not continue the same path as the current post...

The ATA started the self-inflicted slow death around two decades ago ...... Read this a few times ..... "In July of 1998, the ATA announced in a...

I can go here ..... http://rjstuart.com/pages/trophies2018.htm ..... look at "earned yardage" at the Cardinal Classic and count five(5) punches from...

The "basis for discontent" would be you are no longer a "member" of the ATA ..... you are more like a subject under their strict control ..... you...

That works ..... I have tried it ..... Thanks

Not really ...... I have been at 4 trap clubs that had enough "registered shooters" to use all 4 traps, all day, to shoot singles, different handicap...

What makes this not "completely correct" ????? Only at a large enough club to have available traps and help to do so ......

Only at a large enough club to have available traps and help to do so ...... My point from my first post,that I have not changed, and ol'N1H1 tried...

You said Dr. Longshot told a lie, prove it or apologize ..... that is simple enough for even you to understand ...... Time is ticking ..... don't...

Here is your one and only warning from me ol'N1H1 ...... Provide your PROOF it never happened, or apologize to Dr Longshot ..... That is your only...

There is a "third party collection fee" when someone uses a credit card at a "business" ..... So, unless the ATA adds a "fee" to someone using a...

Mike J may want to do a follow up post, to tell everyone in the unwashed masses why two different types of "payment" are "required" to enter a single...

I don't think posting that in cyber-land is going to gain you any "ATA Brownie points" ...... You must believe that the content in a post here is...

Mike J ..... Go to the Missouri Fall Handicap, if you have not already ....... If you can "have a blast" in "Sparta", the Missouri Fall Handicap will...

Yea, being an actual "member" is a great thing ..... Being a subject in a oligarchy that requires a permit, not so much .....

Congrats to the butt slapping mental midgets for another useless move ...... A TRUE 18-yard shooter should easily be a "D-Class" singles shooter...

Don't give up yet ol'N1H1 ...... As you like to tell others ...... From ol'N1H1 ...... "Clearly, FG, you are just a lightweight in a heavyweights'...

As a side note ...... why the use of quotation marks on your own reply ?????? ...... "Total, complete nonsense!" Eating too many crayons today...

That is more than funny being from you ol'N1H1 ....... Why ask others to do something you are not smart enough to do ????????

"All" do not "attend" ...... spend more time working on your "maths", and less time trolling, and you won't look as stupid as others who need to up...

Heck ..... They may get a free Milwaukee Mossberg, and unlimited ATA protection from all the hostile want-to-be All American Captains .....

This ?????? "Reitz said no one at the ATA balked at expanding the facility until last week, when board members met and decided it would be short $4...

From your link: "There is no immediate pressure to make that move now," Reitz said. "The biggest reason for the decision is that they don't have to...

Be sure the "history lesson" is complete and accurate ........ From a "N1H1" post: From the "minutes of the 2002 Annual Meeting of the ATA BOD:"...