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There is ALWAYS A LOT of confusion about "who is", "what is", and "how is" ..... This is from the "CONSTITUTION OF THE INDIANA TRAPSHOOTER'S...

And you seem to want to use that to start posting "your research", because YOU KNOW people would ignore a thread started by "N1H1".

Damn ..... Damn ..... Damn ..... Silly me ..... I have spent the past 4 decades shooting "Trap" ..... thinking it is/was shooting a moving shotgun...

Just an FYI for anyone who may not know ..... "Bat" is not on "vacation status" ...... So any refusal to answer anything is his choice .....

My question has nothing to do with "getting financing", but is to the "why" ..... WHY SHOULD State Associations be involved in "electing ATA...

"I just have a lot more experience than you do in working with the laws for not for profits." Does your "working with the laws for not for profits"...

"Underpaying your taxes is generally a civil matter, not criminal." ..... So ..... in your twisted mind NOT PAYING A TAX on something, is EQUAL in...

"Bat" ...... I can only guess that there is some type of medication you should be taking, and you are not ..... Having said that, and your refusal...

You are not causing trouble by questioning the actions of others ...... Feel free to do so if you see the need ...... Just remember to not take...

Honest questions that deserves answers ..... The "vacation" comes from repeated "warnings" about something ...... The "name calling" comes from...

You are not "wrong" ...... This site has very little "restrictions" ...... The biggest being using the actual name of the "other site".... This...

NOT A "THREAT" ...... I am giving you little time to support how a "ATA bylaw" is "far removed" from ANY OTHER "bylaw" .... Or, YOU WILL get the...

Now it is time for you "Bat", to provide some kind PROOF, that an "ATA bylaw" is "far removed" from any other "bylaw" ..... Look here .........

Glad to see you post again "Bat" ...... Without STUPID people like YOU, cyber-land would be a boring place ...... Your post ..... "Violating a...

Then look at this from ol'N1H1 ...... "in 20+ years as a Delegate and 6 on the Executive Committee" ..... Then ask ..... Should "he", ol'N1H1, be to...

Should the "blame", and and/or recompense, be solely directed toward the "past Presidents of the ATA" ?????? Or, should ANYONE/EVERYONE who was...

"Violating a bylaw is not a criminal matter by itself." ...... Are you sure "Bat" ??????? You can look here ........

True enough. But in 20+ years as a Delegate and 6 on the Executive Committee, I came many times in contact with the ATA disciplinary code, both as a...

"What that document requires be done is what was done" Are things slow in the back-yard proving-grounds ol'N1H1 ????? What makes you think I am "so...

The State of Illinois and the ATA have a business relationship. I understand how this "business relationship" may get some "mileage" in a "gun hate...

Does anyone have a "copy" of "ATA Official Complaint #18-01" ???????? Was "ATA Official Complaint #18-01" filed against "Bob", or by "Bob" ???????...

"The bylaws can be tweaked to keep the Illinois AG happy." ..... maybe, but maybe not ...... In the ATA's haste to "keep the Illinois AG happy", do...

I should have added ......... any Foreign Laws, Rules, Regulations, or Restrictions that may apply to a "Charity" that governs "gun clubs and members...

If reference to "Joe the ATA president" saying "just give me the money" to the "ATA", look at post #66 ..... The "ATA" NOW calls this a...

If the President doesn't want a gun can he just take a cash gift? Are you asking this as a "ATA specific" question ??????? Or, a more general...

In a thread, look in the 'box' on the left, 'click on' the 'user name' and a box will appear. Then click on "Start a Conversation". You have a PM

"Remember, it takes 825 new $20 ATA memberships each year just to pay for the President's gun allowance." That "math" ONLY works if there is a set...

Look here .....http://www.shootata.com/Portals/0/pdf/ata_rulebook_web.pdf ..... to find ..... "page 86" "section 8: Remuneration"..... It begins...

"I'm not sure how the word "services" is used in that statement for or against compensation." "service" ..... "Any duty or labor performed for...

The "form 4473" may be able to shed more light to HB's "Many ATA members believe Presidents purchased their own guns from their expense account in...

"All is Possible" "Dear God, Remind me: There is no problem too complex to solve. No illnesses too severe to heal. No injury too far gone to...

You can look here at a "form 4473" ..........

"It wasn't a crime that you had a conflict with the bylaws" Here "Bat", more information for you ...... "At most, bylaws are legally binding...

Nice try to deflect Bat, I would expect more of you than try to piggy-back a post from "iowa guy", but hey, it is what it is ...... As I told you,...

Are you off your meds today "iowa guy" ?????? Are they to be "compensated" FOR not "following the rules", or BY not "following the rules" ????????...

Dang Family Guy, Take it easy on "DEDPAIR", he has an "antagonistic" image to portray for those who prefer to stay in the Land of Kool Aid ........

"As for breaking laws, why have there been no charges or lawsuits brought against anyone involved?" This question always reminds me of someone doing...

Read ..... "B. Conflicts of interest." ..... from your link ..... "B. Conflicts of interest." "The directors of a charity owe it a duty of...

"Who are you", "identity", and "What is your REAL NAME" are different questions ..... Or, a person could just post in a manner like, you MAY NOT be...

Well Bat, Your posts are PURE Bull-Shit because you continue to tell people, "you are incorrect in your understanding of the law", without telling...

As ALWAYS this thread, like many others, devolve into PURE "Bat" BULL-SHIT ...... Who are you "Bat" that you should be believed as an EXPERT on Tax...

Hey Bat ...... Was it just one more "technicality", when "Gipson" said he was "instructed" to look for a new office building in BFE/Sparta, and then...

That would depend on your perception of "stolen" ..... "Theft by Deception Law and Legal Definition" ........

What say you "Bat" the dumb-ass ..... Could ..... "It was in conflict with the bylaws" be "Misuse of Charitable Assets" as in 760 ILCS 55/16 ........

Here "Bat" ...... http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/publications/pdf/charity.pdf ...... read 760 ILCS 55/16 and ILCS 55/17 ..... for starters...

Bat, You seem to have a very, very, very low moral standard ..... No jail time equals no wrongdoing ..... Have you ever heard of ..... a PROUD...

"It appears Lynn (The Talking Head ) Gipson is not only not the brightest bulb in the box" ..... Maybe ..... But, maybe not ..... He is getting to...

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I would like to see a "picture" of ol'N1H1 getting his "gun gift" ..... So his alter ego "Bat" could say the "picture" negates his culpability of...

"Can't get much more public then showing a picture of the presentation" Hey Bat ..... How about "a picture of the presentation" to a GAH Champion...