Are you serious ?????? The "Cardinal Center" has much more to offer than "Sparta" ..... just fewer "traps" ..... So ..... If the ATA is so happy at...
How much is enough in the "coffers" ??????? And ..... if you believe the last "relocation story" ..... the ATA waited until "they had to move to...
Does anyone believe in reincarnation ????? I didn't post on the loss of the great graph makers thread, because I feel it would be disrespectful to...
Same thing happened at the Grand in 2000 ..... They raised the target requirements ..... wanted entries days in advance ..... and so on ...... The...
Sounds like it would have been wise to check the shoot program, if the breakdown of the day's events were in there, BEFORE THE DRIVE ..... Let's do...
Not sure how you wanted this to work ... separate threads or ????? ... But, there is a "theory" I would love to see as a topic ..... That is...
Do tell "Mike J" ...... Tell everyone all about these "immediate returns" and this "long term benefit" ...... Please show what you have that proves...
Hit a nerve "Mike J" ???????? Tell everyone how a "Trapshooting Charity making "$600,000 net profit for the grand", around $60,000 PER DAY, off it's...
No need to "let up on him" ..... My point is what you are getting for what you give ..... Congrats on the gambling ..... but "Mike J" using it as a...
The only problem I see in you two having your fun is, "Mike J" throws in a propaganda post, like number 44 above, then provokes you to keep the...
"Men make history and not the other way around. In periods where there is no leadership, society stands still. Progress occurs when courageous,...
"trapshooting at the Grand might not be for blue collar workers who have to travel hundred of miles" ..... what an Idiot ..... You try too hard to...
"The ATA shoots at Sparta and the facility in general generate a lot of revenues for the community." ..... damn the Kool-Aid ..... How would you like...
What could the ATA do to make "Sparta" show a profit, that is not being done now ??????? The "O&M" of the place now is just a money-pit, that...
Sorry if anyone took offense to the post ..... not the intent ...... Here is the now of Trapshooting ...... You can not put 'behind Bubba's farm'...
Fantastic ..... But, if it were me, I would include more in the post ..... like ..... maybe ..... address ...... possible contact info ........
"So what do you believe caused the decline in shooters at the Grand" ..... now we are back to just the "Grand", not just "money" shooting ..... I...
"Need to conduct a survey to see how many current and potential trapshooters shoot for money only." ..... already happened for past shooters ........
"that have quit going to ATA shoots, not quit trap shooting" ..... true ..... but many are not as serious about shooting Trap as they were ........
"A lot of it RC" ...... If that is true ...... Look here ........
"The ATA is not the problem." ..... What makes you say that ?????? You keep referring to "the Grand" ... That IS a "ATA" shoot ... so any "problem"...
You still do not get it ..... I DO NOT "worry about the future of the Grand" ..... I "worry" about what the "ATA" has done to organized Trapshooting...
"It is called business opportunity User1." ..... Well, I doubt this "business opportunity" will sell "Jack" a spot in the Hall of Fame for ????...
Well "Mike J" ..... Just for you ..... One more time ...... I have been to and shot at "Sparta" ..... I would NOT SHOOT the "Grand" if it was across...
"They are not looking for Jack to buy the facility just to host more shooting there. " DAMN ..... That Sparta Kool-Aid is dangerous ..... Why would...
FWIW "Mike J" ..... Your "life membership" in the "ATA" keeps you from paying an annual membership ..... and the paper it is on could always be used...
"I am a life member so when the ATA dissolves I'll get my share" ...... really ?????????
Heck ..... there are more people trying to save the place, than shoot there to support it ..... They build a shooting "complex" ..... then put this...
"The LARD made us $19 million and counting rich." ...... Who is this "us" ?????? Are you telling everyone your status in the inner-circle who share...
Look here ..... http://scores.shootata.com/Statistics/Index/1294 ..... It says ..... Total Number of Classified Shooters 3510 ..... 24 H ........
Wonder what would happen if the ATA would stop trying to support their poster boy, and try something different ..... like ..... Pay "guaranteed" 1k...
"HEY DUMMIES ….. IT AINT ABOUT THE SPORT …. IT IS ABOUT GIPSON !!!!" Maybe not ..... how about the idea it could be much harder to sell the inflated...
"Okay, I spoke directly to a past president. $19m in the bank no financial problem." Please tell ignorant people like me what "Bank" that money is...
Where is the rest of the story ???????? I don't give a damn how good someone thinks they are, it takes a lot of time, money, and effort to break a...
A single "stickie" would be so long no one would take the time to read it ..... Enough "stickies" to cover most topics would take too much page...
How about this "story" ?????? This story says ..... when the ATA owned the home grounds, making all "grand" camping and vending fees go directly to...
Does it seem odd, that the "ATA" could take the supposed millions from the ' home grounds sale ', and turn it into tens of millions supposedly using...
Yes ..... Stop feeling the victim and use all the available wisdom to work on a ATA replacement ..... Our glory days didn't just happen, they were...
What I find the most interesting is the reaction to the "story" ..... The reaction seems to go something like this ..... Did you hear about the...
The "D-class" doesn't currently work well in "16-yard singles" for people with the "less than" average ..... So, people who have a 70's average in...
I will help the ATA Pres spread his wisdom ..... I like this part ..... "This is so the money won't be so tight at the top and will trickle down a...
you can find this in cyber-land ..... for those that dont know mr.and mrs.ljutic and family, you should. enjoy this..... Before he became famous for...
The ATA has a very ignorant business practice ..... that is ..... try something, if it doesn't work, it is the fault of the customer, the shooters...
The "numbers" mean a lot ..... If I am a Hedge Fund manager that gets paid for good, bad, or other ..... I will make investments different than if...
No doubt the "best shooter" that day, in that Event will always win ..... The "best shooter", as people think of "best", may not be there ........
"that will only be $48,000.00" ..... Makes a person wonder if it is more about a test, then about the total dollars this time ..... If the over...
"If it is good for Sparta it is good for the ATA." No doubt about that ..... The great thing about the Cardinal Center is ..... they do "GOOD" for...
"Sparta COULD (not only) do well without SCTP" ..... heck, "Sparta is headed in a FANTASTIC DIRECTION" ..... This great advice from "Trapwife" about...
"Museum showcases and preserves the history of our great sport. It is the ONLY facility dedicated to this mission" "This great facility was...
It is great that George is here and willing/able to help ...... There may be other shooters that could benefit from the conversations if they were...
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