"no more money going into the WSC and enough money coming out each year to pay the bond obligations that were sold to fund the WSC" .... Sounds like...
"I'd like to know more about my kingdom" .... then start a new thread about that topic .... My 'comment' was about something you said about this...
"negative connotations" .... no .... just an observation ....
What a paradox .... the King of semantics, "I hope that this does not signal a decision by the EC to enforce "guidelines" rather than rules." ....
"I assume no one thinks it would be sportmanlike" .... for D-class shooters to get pounded with A, AA, and AAA scores .... year after year .... and...
What happened to the Kool Aid crap that the "best shooter will ALWAYS win" .... Now .... to prove a mythical point .... you say ALWAYS is not ALWAYS...
There are targets lost everyday as a result of THAT shell, working with THAT choke, producing THAT pattern ... shot at THAT target, that may be...
The purpose of increased yardage is to increase the probability of a lost target for ANY reason ..... Handicap ..... EACH high score is a...
The largest effect of "high-altitude" is the view from a "high-horse" .....
"sportmanlike to banish any member to a yardage where the limiting factor is the equipment" ..... A 'short-yardage schmuck' can hit a target, dust...
Thank You wpt ... "Secret's breed contempt, doubt, and suspicion if you need proof check back over the past 15 years ... If you have nothing to hide,...
The ATA has served a fresh batch of Kool Aid ..... The "Governor of Illinois" could only be guilty of "political posturing" .... IF Sparta/WRSC was...
Most people only need to see something from a consumer's perspective, because that is what they are. But, if you look at Sparta/WSC from a business...
No .... I am not a Sparta fan .... but took the time to go check it out a couple of times. Heck, it takes "10 or 15 minutes at most" to get off the...
"outside normal is merely guess work and open to interpretation, first by the shooter himself, by the scorekeeper, then possibly by management" .......
Can some of the pro-Sparta shooters tell everyone how they spend their day there ..... I am very interested in the people who do not have a...
"Has anyone ever gone thru this hell besides us? " I shy away from treads like this because of the personal pain it invokes .... My father was my...
It is great 'someone from the inside' decided to jump into the fray .... But ... I find it interesting to be part of a group, and want to 'judged'...
The thing about cyber-chat is what many warn about ... If we have a 'face-to-face' conversation it has a different 'tone' to it. Reading words or...
Interesting view .... "The possibility of a suspension in the operation of the shooting complex has raised a great deal of controversy and rumor in...
It is always interesting how people use what they are told .... One (1) year shows a possible decline, that MAY be caused by a rule change from...
If the Sparta area/Illinois gets 22 million dollars added to their economy/local economy each year by virtue of ATA shooters ..... A total of 3200...
"The American Trapshooting Association estimates that the complex brings over $22 million annually to the region" ... Good thing they can trust the...
"Change" is going to be slow and painful for all involved ... there is common ground for those who love the Sport of Trapshooting. Those who have...
"Do you have an actionable plan?" ..... That is a tough one .... Let me first say I have never lived in Kentucky, but have a story to tell about...
"a whole new organization is required" .... No .... that would be silly, at best .... How about just removing some 'dead-weight' that is firmly...
The Silver Dollar has 2 Grands and a State Shoot .... other places could do whatever they desired .... BUT .... What keeps getting LOST is the fixes...
The "BOD" makes their 'best guess' at what is "best for the Corporation" ... OK The membership votes by way of membership and attendance ... OK The...
If .... "promoting the best interests of the Corporation" is to infer that 'members' are viewed as 'customers' used to keep the "Corporation" 'alive'...
Isn't the Club in Gettysburg Ohio the one that the Club-House is half underground ???? If that's it ... WOW ... great shoot, but take some BIG...
Location is one of the most important things for anything to succeed .... But .... The "Grand" has other baggage that may be equal to, if not greater...
Sure .... they can have my 20 bucks for me being able to shoot at some targets at the shoots I like.
Let's see .... the records show the number of people breaking 100's in handicap events at State Shoots seems to be few .... and the number of "Grand...
"about their maximum range (defined as having a very, very high, but not 100%, probability of breaking a target which is perfectly pointed)" OK .......
That building may have cost over 2 million to build .... but, the 'actual cash value' in that location can not be anything close to that. I can't...
One has to find humor in the fact that ... a 20-yard schmuck breaks ONE 'good score' and gets yardage, they are told it is an 'honor' ... good...
Read 28 .... "cease immediately and without penalty or liability for damages" ....
Let me guess .... the "three States (not to be named) " .... were NOT Ohio, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania ....
Thanks for the invite iowa guy ... I probably won't be able to make either shoot, but who knows things change every day. I would like to chat and...
iowa guy .... I will try to give my "opinion" about the "insurance business" to you sometime in person. We can have a beverage and exchange opinions,...
It is just one more example of a poorly written "lease". "for events" should say, for 'select' events, or for 'all' events, or whatever they are...
This thread shows a bigger problem .... In the past .... banks like these would fill with target only, new shooters, and 'family' that traveled with...
I can ONLY speak for me .... but .... " (almost $116,000)" would not 'buy me' to the point of appearing that 'I' was NOT acting in the best interest...
To say what happened BEFORE you is not 'your fault' can be true .... To say you have no 'blame' in NOT being able to stop the decline may not be...
10.2 'covers' more than "environmental impact" .... I have respect for people "in the insurance business" .... but, someone at the 'Agent' level,...
It is not all about what "9 feet" actually is, it is about what it represents. You can NOT 'pick-on' the chosen one's ... They 'paid-their-dues' to...
My opinion ... and it is just my opinion, from living life fast and hard ..... You should NEVER leave anything 'open' on a lease/contract. If...
When it comes to "Insurance" I have paid well for my 'education'. Having owned/ran several 'brick-and-mortar businesses', by owning and...
I read the "lease" and understand the terms for 'when' it is in force. I also know that even for 'just the Grand' the 'utilities' would take a big...
The "lease agreement" 5.5 (i) says ... "Any other agreement not withstanding, the TROLLEYS donated to DNR by the ATA shall cease to be used for...
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