We can talk Global warming if everyone wants to .... But ... If you are interested it the "ATA" you must open your eyes .... The newly elected VP...
"Look forward to your logical solutions ." ..... OK ..... In the real world 'positions' are performance based, things go well, you stay, they go...
Thank You for realizing I am "Special" ... And let me say I think it is great that custodians are now considered "in retail" .... Every Walmart...
"And if I had to guess you live closer to Vandalia..? just a guess" .... The Missouri Fall Handicap is a greater distance from "my house" than...
" I am sure he is basing that on what he see's in his area but that is not the existing situation I observe locally." Read your own words and think...
I have been to Sparta and shot there .... and I have been to the "beer tent" at both .... My travel expense to get to Sparta was ZERO/FREE .... I...
The 'ATA' is 'in charge' of 'their' shoot format ... and shooters are not interested in their offerings ... so who's 'fault' is it ?????????? the...
Jo2 made a very good post, if some will stop long enough to read it and let it sink in. The ATA wants to keep donors on the hook for money, while...
Your confused AZCO .... Not the Sparta old home grounds .... the other one ....
N1H1 ... the 'details' of a bad decision may be interesting to some ... but they are a moot-point. Shooters will not go, and have shown that for 10...
It has to be "a super nice place to shoot" .... D-class singles winning scores 98, 97, 98 .... and doubles D-class 91, 96, 94, 97 .... not too bad...
The sign is GREAT about the "dates" of the 2016 Grand ... but did it include 'WHERE' it is going to be ??????
Sandbagging .... Big Dogs need wins for points .... points for shells and 'other' things .... and B,C, and D-class wins are looking pretty good about...
Think about it Doc .... Would you make your job harder if you didn't have to ??????????? I can tell you if I was one of the 'names' you "called...
"Rules state angles can be set beyond 17 degrees, height is 8-10 feet with a recommended 9-1/2 setting. Distance flight up to 51 yards" .... That...
"Robert Munson HOF, "difference (between 2 hole and 3 hole settings) is all between the ears." .... you may want to ask if he changed his mind .......
The thing those working hard on a "new plan" may want to consider .... is .... The ATA may be able to save the Grand/Sparta .... but the...
Think about it ... some post past member numbers at 70,000 or more, and the record high number shooting the GAH is 5,000. The tunnel-vision is...
Best guess would be the HOF insure the structure ... why would the state care if it was a loss ???? They do not appear to have a future use for it.
Jake's Bait Shack Built by the top ATA/HOF Master-Baiters for their personal pleasure ....
The contractor must have used someone's Walmart calculator when pricing that place by the square-foot .... :D
I would like to have been the one paid 2.1 million for that job ..... Unless there is 1.6 million dollars worth of gold fixtures inside.
I think it is a concern for the other 50 'off-weeks' when there will be functional firearms for the taking.
"That's why I say we need to amend the setting rules for the sake of our sport, not the top dogs." .... And until the "Top Dogs" are treated the...
"The top shooters will break anything you throw, not so for the average shooters playing our games." Who complained ?????? Was it B,C, or D Class...
"I never hear talk of over throwing the leadership at the clubs I attend. " .... I assume you are referring to ATA leadership .... Because ... If...
'Trap-talk' is the same in most Club-Houses, and even at the Grand in most gathering places. It has been that way for the very long time I have been...
Hang on .... did I read that right ????? Did N1H1 'defend' "Longshot" ?????? "2. If you respond "along gender lines," why can't Longshot?" ......
"Will we see any interruption in the scheduled events?" .... "but for those of us coming to shoot it would be a real issue" .... Would that be an...
And the 'cyber-land' old-man chat-rooms would be a very boring place without it ..... Ever go into a 'port-a-potty' and NOT look down the...
"LS tops that in a runaway!" ... You have to admit N1H1 ... He has the ability to drag you out of silence ...
"If you use the State of Illinois numbers, they come up to $157,416.66 per month" .... you have to also keep in mind that is an 'average' ..... The...
"Stay tuned!" ... for what ????? "Lynn Gipson" has made some public statements that the Grand will be in Sparta for years to come ... "Word is the...
There are shoots that have dropped target requirements. You would need enough of a history to be placed where you may fit. The problem the ATA will...
You would think ALL the Pro-Sparta people, most who have NEVER went, would NEVER make the same mistake as the dumb Ohio people and NOT GO and support...
FWIW ... The first trip I made we stayed in the Super 8 in Belleville, next trip we stayed in a house that the Owner rented for the Grand ... and IF...
Is it called a 'Trap-house' because that looks like a 'trap-door' in the picture over the hole in the ground .... or does 'Trap' come from live bird...
How can "Taylor" shut down a shoot ????? what happened to, you must file a complaint, complete with details, put it through the 'system', following...
"it was started by a all-American shooter who had a bad day in a singles event" .... NO WAY !!!! N1H1 has spent years, graphs, charts, and a bunch...
That is a long way to just say paying the 2.1 million 'up-front', is equivalent to paying ten years of 'lease-payments' for a building of that...
If it is my money "a $2.1 million property", "property" being 'real estate' with no debt, it would be $21,000.00 a month/$252,000.00 per year in a...
"Back to the point, look at the ATA in Vandalia. They spent money on property they didn't own there." .... They spent money with the intent of...
Just to make my post(s) clear .... I did not use the word "profit(s)" .... I have not read anywhere that there are any 'plans' as far as making,...
IF .... the HOF decided to charge a fee to visit .... it would be safe to say many would not visit. But .... let's say 3,500 people pay ten dollars...
"look at many large corporation's leasehold improvements. Look at many franchised businesses. Look at any business operating on municipal lands."...
"Vendors are not a problem." ..... do tell ..... you must know much more than me ..... you have my attention. If having a 'big shoot' is the ONLY...
The 'biggest' problem I could see is for Vendors. To sell firearms it requires a FFL for that location in a building, nothing mobile, or at least...
Leonidas why don't you call and ask ???? Isn't that what you recommend to others who have questions like this ????
Nothing to do with "convenience" ..... It is stupid from a tax revenue point .... Walmart pays property tax, inventory tax (unsold shells), local...
And the beat goes on .... The 'shell sales' being directed back to the complex for many, will only take business away from a local location that...
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