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"Cheap Yardage" created some big problems. If you avoid "cheap yardage" to be competitive, you are a "sandbagger". If you take the cheap yardage you...

Knowing where someone "stands" is one thing, daily reminders is another. Does the PA-AG know "where you stand" on a "public charity" that operates...

A few people in BFE got together and accomplished something .... getting a few people to do more than vent in cyber-land seems to be much harder....

The "treasures" have little to no value to the State of Illinois. Illinois would probably lose money selling them. It would take 500 people 6 years...

The "Grand" has to happen "at any cost" .... that is, "at any cost" to the membership. Because .... IF it does not, how are the members going to...

There is a "plan", and it is very clear and basic .... people just keep taking the bait and spend their time talking about the smoke and mirrors....

Nothing to see "after the 15th." "ATA officials are satisfied that this resumption of shooting activity at the WSRC cured the lease...

"Junior Atwood" is a great example of why I hate the "ATA". A very good shooter given yardage by mail for spite, and then forced to stay on the...

"Bitching and second guessing on some internet forum won't cut it?" .... I could not agree more .... Getting some prosecuted for their possible...

Vandalia was a destination .... Sparta is a location .... if you know the difference, you will know the difference.

Can I play ???? First, get rid of every person currently "working for" the "ATA". Second, look hard for people willing to work hard for the sport,...

That is an interesting way to ask the question. Why not inquire about how much of a financial interest he may have in this site ???????? If I was...

Congrats on being placed into the History

From "tarpmaker" on a different thread .... "Will Barry Roach be at the Beagle trials or the Glock shoot." "Glock" et al may visit 'other types' of...

What a shame a thread titled "Future of Trapshooting" uses the "damn Grand" as a political football. Again, Trapshooting on a non-ATA level is doing...

Check out the 'Riff-Raff' ... "Gipson", "will", "have the Conservation Police escort them off the grounds"....

That picture shows an event total, and total entries. The number that currently gets used as "attendance", is the number of shooters who shoot one...

Duff .... Are you using the numbers that shot the GAH, or total number that shot at least one event ????? The 1999 GAH had 5,000 shooters in that...

It took the "ATA" over a century to have a "net worth" equal to one months "sales" for "Glock". If they are going to "piss-off" someone in the "Gun...

This is the first I have read about this, my most sincere Condolences to him and his family.

If there is an interest in a pissing contest about a closed club, start a new thread or watch the thread drift start to get deleted.

Jeff Bezos gets my vote. He is worth 46.7 billion for a reason. And ... Amazon could make better use of all that land in BFE than the "ATA".

If I have good reason to believe someone is a "thief", I let the appropriate authority handle it. Vigilante justice has never been the best way....

To this ... "Is the SCTP a "Public Charity" ... you can 'look up' anything "public", and be able to "see" what they are required to "file".

Well Leonidas .... It is no surprise you would fail to find something. Duff .... You would be justified in requesting all that if they are a "Public...

Leonidas .... You may find conversations about "BOXERS ,BRIEFS , THONGS OR [sic] COMANDO" a bit boring, and I would agree ... but your posts toward...

If it was any State other than Illinois, I may agree. But, looking at the past/current/future corruption and greed going on in that State, it is easy...

The Cardinal Center is being built to fit an agenda, but I don't think it is being built with an agenda. There are enough shooters in that area to...

"in the terms of number of annual participants, is undoubtedly trapshooting." So ... if the "ATA" thinks it can resolve the red-ink problems at the...

Kool Aid for breakfast ????? They may not find as much "wrong" as some think .... but the hope of finding "nothing wrong" is the most ignorant thing...

That also reminds me of someone. Always worried about wasting time when it doesn't go his way, but can't just let it go. Are you sure you do not...

Did I hit a nerve "Bat" ????? I mean, "specifically", what has you upset ?????

Give it a rest Bat .... As I said, if you want to act stupid I will be glad to treat you as such. Nice choice of words .... "you, specifically,"...

How can you possibly know exactly what people are doing without seeing the forms being sent ?????? You keep making efforts to deter people's efforts...

Ok .... If you want to act as if you are stupid, who am I to deny you. You have made reference to the incorrect use of "forms", and you always fail...

Geez Bat .... You refuse to make any "factual statements" about yourself. Then you give vague statements using your vast knowledge on "tax" laws. I...

Well iowa guy .... Why should the demands of "proof" be different for the "Doc" than it is for "Bat" ?????? I have ask "Bat" several questions,...

"That's what has been eating at you!" .... Sorry, you may amuse me, but not much "eats" at me. You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself .......

Well Bat, the Doc feels like you are N1H1 .... I would say he has good reason to believe so because of "your fixation" on him.

Come on Bat ... really ???? "My motive is to try to get the facts presented, and point out what I believe is inaccurate info" .... So, tell everyone...

Does being "fairly knowledgeable" give you a good reason to give advice on how to use Federal and State forms, that are used to "report" things ?????...

Bat .... You are spending time to "educate" the unwashed masses, but still refuse to disclose your credentials and motive. WHY not tell those you are...

It would be fantastic if "the ATA should file with IRS for a determination they are the target of a harassment campaign". I would urge them to do...

Why would the IRS and/or the IL-AG want to "replace" a "squeaky wheel" ????????

The "open forum" allows people to "have an opinion" and post them. When their posts show ignorance, they shouldn't be offended by being questioned...

Come on Duff ... put a little meat on the bone. How much should the IDNR "pay" the "ATA" to run the Big Black Hole. You know, something like a...

"turn very slowly" .... yes. But it will only "die" if people quit trying. One of two things, or both, may happen if people keep asking .... they...

I guess that makes sense to you ... but, what do you think will happen if the "negotiations pursuant to the MOU" start, and the "ATA" says we are...

If you look at the posted electric bill it shows a per-month usage, you can "pro-rata" the proper month for the two weeks of the "Grand". If you look...

What do you think the "whole park" is ?????? The Carp fishing was not affected by the "shut down" .... so "shooting aspects" and camping is the...