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Every "shoot-off" I have been in had a "line-referee" ..... IF that is the case here, that is the ONLY opinion that mattered. The current "ATA...

The purpose of all that cyber-chat was about, "no way they can keep in the black when all of the bills roll in at $3 per round", NOT about "beer" or...

Good post ..... but begs the question ..... Why does the "OSTA" currently need the "ATA" ?????????

Please do not upset "Bat/N1H1" by not using the correct "invitation" form, based on their opinion of your "intent" ..... Maybe Form 13909 ........

NOTHING is going to change/get better, as long as "the hedge fund" keeps supplying enough participation money and/or paychecks for those on the "ATA"...

The "wrong marketing focus" has NOTHING to do with age ..... IF ..... "Trap" is "marketing"/offering NOTHING but an expensive "social sport",...

I have no doubt how a "pretty" full color chart and/or graph would be nice ..... I would hope the chart/graph could show how the "money-making"...

You have some GOOD questions "Bat", like ..... "Does anyone other than you even care?" ..... And, "Who cares if the website reports gross or net?"...

Thanks "Bat" ..... It is always fun to read your posts ..... I have to always ask how you can post "facts" like, " but it isn't in this case....

"What next?" With some "luck" ..... "Bat" will keep playing "word games" long enough to see "why" some things that appear to not make sense, may...

I agree with this, "it was probably caused by the recoil and not actually a double" ..... And for this,"Did you shoot any more of your 1 ounce...

You state that as "fact", and it may be ..... but I fail to see where you want to provide the unwashed masses with anything other than your post .....

If you "see no reason to doubt HB's post" ..... then you seem to "not doubt" the word "Income" ..... and you try to offer, "Those "few dollars" you...

There is no doubt in my mind that, "in simple terms, net income generally increases assets", can be true ..... The "word" used in HB's post is...

Are you trying to "imply" a losing venture like "camping" would increase the "assets" line ?????

OK "Bat" ..... IF "Most of the ATA's assets are cash and investments", and "that seems pretty clear". "Chime in" on this ..... "Good luck with...

Thanks for the reply "Bat" ..... "it seems pretty self-explanatory" ..... I am sure you have an "opinion", everyone does ..... but, hey, carry on...

"Bat" is selective on what "thread" to chime in on ..... I was kind of hoping to hear, on different threads, "Bat's" opinion on the "ATA's"...

I wouldn't say we "agree" on that "fact" ..... I think I make it very clear that I do not post in cyber-land to make faux friends ..... having said...

Here is my point "trappermike" ..... Making up your own "ballpark number", then use the word "fact", is much like the "excel error" published in the...

I am not sure if any on the "ATA Gravy Train" want to "retire" from it ..... It looks more like "till death do us part" ..... It also looks like the...

Maybe in direct compensation ..... but who knows in indirect compensation to keep the "location" of his "business" open to the public 365 days a year...

Has the "ATA" become nothing more than a "hedge fund", that only has an interest in "Trapshooting" as a way to keep from paying taxes ????? Looking...

Simmer-down "trappermike", your going to get upset and show everyone who the real "trappermike" is ..... You said the person who posts here, with...

Be sure to keep your fine sense of humor "trappermike", you seem to get a little sensitive at times without it ..... This "fact", "The fact remains,...

Thanks "trappermike" ..... it is always interesting to know people of such great wisdom can post something like, "Seems to me that 1.7 million looks...

I have "seen" what the "ATA" reports to the "IRS" ..... but a steady "decline" in "Trapshooting" is "reported" to produce more "income" for the "ATA"...

If you look at HB's post number 27, and this page,...

Where did you get that number ????? You offered, "according to comicsbeat.com" for "the Facebook universe of self-identified comic fans", and...

The content of this thread is exactly why "Trapshooting" will continue it's free-fall off the "cliff" ..... EVERYTHING is a "binary choice", "I/we...

The "minutes of the EC Dec meeting" read as to be expected from someone who played "all-in" ..... "Sparta" is "rosey" for someone who has businesses...

Like, "that it was not done in violation of any bylaws provision", would make any difference ..... The "shotgun gift" WAS "in violation of any...

Simple answer ..... no ..... If you look here ..... http://www.precisionfitstocks.com/product/silver-seitz-precision-fit-grip/ ..... one thing you...

It is not a "request" type of thing ..... People CAN get themselves "banned" for reference to "the other site". Leave the people and problems there,...

That sounds interesting ...... because a "Pennsylvania Liquor License" looks like it could cost a lot of money ........

Heck 'dawg ..... That "Club" may have to start "charging" ten bucks for each round of 25 "Trap" targets ..... you know, to "subsidize" the "Bar loan"...

You, "do a complete remodel job on the bar and spend $135,000" ..... AND, "do remember paying .25 for a glass of beer so by your standards we're...

A "Club" that has "a re-mortgage" ..... Would you care to explain how a "very profitable" Club has a need to share it's "PROFIT" with a "Commercial...

"PROFIT" is a "dirty word" to the "IRS" ..... IF ..... a "Club" ..... "files a TAX RETURN" ..... showing a "large PROFIT" ..... then, you are just...

IF ..... the "Club" is "FOR PROFIT", good for them having "weekends we turned over $3,500 net profit" ..... IF ..... the "Club" is "FOR PROFIT" they...

There would be enough "shot" laying on the ground after a year or two of shooting, to "reclaim" for enough money to fix several "traps" or anything...

You can't forget Mississippi ..... They should be number one on the "2017 Top Ten venues most to least" ..... All those new long yardage shooters...

It may be a "no correct answer question", the way it was ask. You can change the "difference in gun movement" by changing the POI of the two...

If ..... both shooters started by pointing at the "top edge of the house", the taller shooter would have the greater distance back to "level" .....

If ..... you hold the gun "level", and do not consider the distance from the top of your head to your eye, the 7' shooter only has to move the gun 4'...

At the highest level of a "competition", it is harder to "overcome" any "gap" in ability ..... In fact, many times it is just impossible. You CAN...

"I'm afraid those days are long gone." Just think if "Trapshooters" of the 30's, 40's, and 50's felt that way, I doubt the 60's, 70's, and 80's...

The "title" of the thread ..... "Since we don't have" ..... sounds like the way a spoiled kid would talk to their mom, after finding out their...

trappermike, You have a PM.

Shooting for money was the lure for Trapshooting. There is no doubt the better shooters won more, but the "little guy" could win just enough to stay...