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I would not bet that this will be the last Grand shot here, but I will give ODDs that the additional 10 lease will not be honored by the State of...

I have (over heard) heard people (shooters) complain about being treated differently than if it was "so and so" for many years ... That can be a...

Its is what it is, hope the HOF gets to use it for many years to come ... Its not what you would call impressive but it works and blends with the...

I do not thing a reasonably logical person needs a calculater to figure out where this is going ... The State of Illinois has always been known to...

Gary, Can't you speed them up, dame man then you got to learn to walk on the thing .... All the best, just kidding about learning to walk .......

The ATA EC would put a stop to any members who would come to the meeting and not agree with the agenda they themself represent ... The wedge...

I would say with all of the overhead doors it looks like it could be used for several things, not just the HOF ... The door can accomidate stages...

'Or in a $50.00 miss and out that has moved so far back the puller is WAY off to the side of you and the empty shell box the first shooter used as...

I was zinging Dr LS, knew he had to have a legit reason, now I am sorry I pointed this out ... I think its more of a club rule than Official rule...

The facility would go to hell in a hand basket faster if it just sits there and is not used at all or would be subject to being vandalized ... The...

I would be with you in spirit, but have no desire to visit Sparta, Ill. again ... If we would of been on the road I would be there but the wife's...

Lynn Gipson appears to be the talking head for the ATA or he is making statements (scripted) they feel people want to hear ... If the operational...

Gary, Are you talking about a civil uprising (coup) , problem would be getting the Life Members to the Grand for the meeting, not standing up...

Personally, I am a little (more than a little) disappointed in Doc Long Shot and him not making a good impression on the shooting youth of today ......

I'm guesssing he used that same damn calculator or one just like it, the one I used from WalMart ... lol WPT ... (YAC) ...

The problem is when you start out in the hole ($22,000,000) its really hard to justify or try being able to get out of it ... If they break even for...

I cannot imagine a movie without a plot, more so than as a promotion type as suggested ... What and how would you promote it and what would be the...

Lynn Gipson best come up with a better reason or excuse than that ... The people fail to see over $22,000,000 dollars of tax payer dollars being...

Dolby, Don't take it personal, its the rules of the game to try and eliminate the Sandbaggers ... It obviously does not work based on observation...

Agree 100% ... Would love to know who the complainer was so we can all expect the same treatment in the future ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

Jhunts, I stand corrected, should of said if the target were within the legal limits ... "If the targets would of been within the limitations of...

Pretty much one of the same anyway ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

I would imagine his authority would of been limited to what ever amount the club wanted to cave in to and give way for ... The rules are clearly...

Doc, I am a little dis appointed in you, at the Dysinger throw down as you got ready to shoot your turn is was obvious that you did not have on...

If I would of been calling the shots I would of let him shut the shoot down and make damn sure I announced it over the public address system and why...

The best thing about the whole thing was everyone had a good time and had some fun ... I am a Shriner and tried to get a bunch from the Shrine to...

Probably based more on want than need but thats another thread ... When a company deals with the State they know the bids are going to be based...

Most times when you rent or lease something its on a net, net, net agreement (building maintainance, Insurance, Taxes ..) If in a strip mall or...

I'm not sure there is a set in stone amount other then what those involved with the deal come up with ... The HOF could of done much better if they...

Seitz 9010, Quoted "Politicians, government employees and the ATA EC, it doesn't get any better than this. " .... Got that right now kneel...

From 1993 (spike) then decline, until the 100 th Grand which shows a sizable (spike) increase in attendance, then the ATA felt they were not going to...

The plan is being done in stages, ..... Stage one : Breakfast on the membership...

To Save the WSRC : Then there is always the possibilty of outsourcing the maintainance of the facility and get rid of the State Employees who...

If all things are less than Equal I seriously doubt it would go over very well ... Zone shoots are not the same as a Satelite Grand, or the Grand...

Dysinger looks good holding that Model 12 ... Old DLS must of did himself proud to a point any way ... Great Pictures ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

The reports say the ATA has $12,000,000 (12 Million ) dollars on hand, that would last less than 6 years at the rate the place has lost money plus...

GREAT PICTURES as usual ... Thanks a bunch for posting them ... WPT ... (YAC) ... Tell Ol' DLS if he wants to be one, ask one ...

I heard the rumors that History Buff heard also about some investement group if you will that was interested but only if they could of gotten all of...

Agree with History Buff 100% ,... WPT ... (YAC) ...

I have said for a long time (years) there should be females on the BOD and EC for the sake of the association and the membership ... Love to see...

The site in Sparta did not and could not qualify until it became a lease deal without the due diligence clause ... This was made known before the...

Stephens said the local group wanted to meet with IDNR director Wayne Rosenthal to discuss keeping the shooting complex operation and getting it to...

They build a trapline, then a berm out about 100/150 (?) yards and the another trapline in front of that ... Not sure of the distance but legal...

Hap, as I recall cleaned house and took names at the Tucson club ... I guess he just wasn't thinking about wide angles or any other angles than the...

I seem to recall 2 (maybe 3 sites) in Ohio, word on the street at the time has it Tom Acklin drove up on one of them, never got out of the car and...

Illinois is not the one who made a mistake unless you consider spending 31.4 million tax dollars to build a facility that did not have sufficient...

"WPT= no one is hiding a f'ing thing and YOU KNOW IT get off your arrogant high horse- quit trying to stir the pot and read the GD ATA website...

Wow, thanks for posting that Dan ....Amazeing ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

I still say if you have nothing to hide, hide nothing ... Eliminate any and all suspicion, no more problem ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

Not sure, sure should be ... WPT ... (YAC) ...