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True enough. But in 20+ years as a Delegate and 6 on the Executive Committee, I came many times in contact with the ATA disciplinary code, both as a...

"What that document requires be done is what was done" Are things slow in the back-yard proving-grounds ol'N1H1 ????? What makes you think I am "so...

The State of Illinois and the ATA have a business relationship. I understand how this "business relationship" may get some "mileage" in a "gun hate...

Does anyone have a "copy" of "ATA Official Complaint #18-01" ???????? Was "ATA Official Complaint #18-01" filed against "Bob", or by "Bob" ???????...

"The bylaws can be tweaked to keep the Illinois AG happy." ..... maybe, but maybe not ...... In the ATA's haste to "keep the Illinois AG happy", do...

I should have added ......... any Foreign Laws, Rules, Regulations, or Restrictions that may apply to a "Charity" that governs "gun clubs and members...

If reference to "Joe the ATA president" saying "just give me the money" to the "ATA", look at post #66 ..... The "ATA" NOW calls this a...

If the President doesn't want a gun can he just take a cash gift? Are you asking this as a "ATA specific" question ??????? Or, a more general...

In a thread, look in the 'box' on the left, 'click on' the 'user name' and a box will appear. Then click on "Start a Conversation". You have a PM

"Remember, it takes 825 new $20 ATA memberships each year just to pay for the President's gun allowance." That "math" ONLY works if there is a set...

Look here .....http://www.shootata.com/Portals/0/pdf/ata_rulebook_web.pdf ..... to find ..... "page 86" "section 8: Remuneration"..... It begins...

"I'm not sure how the word "services" is used in that statement for or against compensation." "service" ..... "Any duty or labor performed for...

The "form 4473" may be able to shed more light to HB's "Many ATA members believe Presidents purchased their own guns from their expense account in...

"All is Possible" "Dear God, Remind me: There is no problem too complex to solve. No illnesses too severe to heal. No injury too far gone to...

You can look here at a "form 4473" ..........

"It wasn't a crime that you had a conflict with the bylaws" Here "Bat", more information for you ...... "At most, bylaws are legally binding...

Nice try to deflect Bat, I would expect more of you than try to piggy-back a post from "iowa guy", but hey, it is what it is ...... As I told you,...

Are you off your meds today "iowa guy" ?????? Are they to be "compensated" FOR not "following the rules", or BY not "following the rules" ????????...

Dang Family Guy, Take it easy on "DEDPAIR", he has an "antagonistic" image to portray for those who prefer to stay in the Land of Kool Aid ........

"As for breaking laws, why have there been no charges or lawsuits brought against anyone involved?" This question always reminds me of someone doing...

Read ..... "B. Conflicts of interest." ..... from your link ..... "B. Conflicts of interest." "The directors of a charity owe it a duty of...

"Who are you", "identity", and "What is your REAL NAME" are different questions ..... Or, a person could just post in a manner like, you MAY NOT be...

Well Bat, Your posts are PURE Bull-Shit because you continue to tell people, "you are incorrect in your understanding of the law", without telling...

As ALWAYS this thread, like many others, devolve into PURE "Bat" BULL-SHIT ...... Who are you "Bat" that you should be believed as an EXPERT on Tax...

Hey Bat ...... Was it just one more "technicality", when "Gipson" said he was "instructed" to look for a new office building in BFE/Sparta, and then...

That would depend on your perception of "stolen" ..... "Theft by Deception Law and Legal Definition" ........

What say you "Bat" the dumb-ass ..... Could ..... "It was in conflict with the bylaws" be "Misuse of Charitable Assets" as in 760 ILCS 55/16 ........

Here "Bat" ...... http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/publications/pdf/charity.pdf ...... read 760 ILCS 55/16 and ILCS 55/17 ..... for starters...

Bat, You seem to have a very, very, very low moral standard ..... No jail time equals no wrongdoing ..... Have you ever heard of ..... a PROUD...

"It appears Lynn (The Talking Head ) Gipson is not only not the brightest bulb in the box" ..... Maybe ..... But, maybe not ..... He is getting to...

https://thesouthern.com/lifestyles/recreation/outdoors-sparta-is-the-nerve-center-for-the-trapshooting-world/article_910c7807-cdb0-515f-869c-ba3b7cc78...

I would like to see a "picture" of ol'N1H1 getting his "gun gift" ..... So his alter ego "Bat" could say the "picture" negates his culpability of...

"Can't get much more public then showing a picture of the presentation" Hey Bat ..... How about "a picture of the presentation" to a GAH Champion...

The "early nineties" was some 25-ish years ago, but I can say I don't remember any "picture" having a 'story' with it giving details about how this...

Why does the ATA handicap reduction system become "unfair" past the "27" ??????? Why should anyone closer than the "27" have to shoot the required...

You can not judge a "handicap" system by ONE Event ...... Add up ALL the "earned yardage" from the "27" for the year and see what that tells you...

OK ..... Then what would it matter if you apply the "feel" logic to everything ..... The next time you have to slow down because someone "feels" the...

Until everyone gets serious about enforcement, any "changes" will not get a lot of mileage ...... Before the "rule-book" included Mulligans, there...

The problem is this ..... "wanting to shoot where I feel I belong" ..... Why have ANY system if people can just "FEEL" whatever they want ?????????...

That reminds me of what someone told me long ago about Trapshooting ..... They said, "If you go to a shoot and shoot targets only or just the Lewis...

I can see that the "Martin's money" has not helped, and will not help anything in the future other than "propping up Sparta" ..... And, I have no...

"Can registered trapshooting be saved?" ..... maybe ..... Can the "ATA" be saved ????? ..... NO ..... If getting rid of the 18 yard-line handicap is...

I don't think so ..... You have to keep all the puzzle pieces together to see the whole picture ...... Any ATA shoots, held in any location, will...

Look at post number 2 or post number 571 on this thread ...... Not sure if it is still accurate ......

ol'N1H1 is going to learn how to "play nice". A threat from N1H1 ..... "No, I threatened to sue if patently libelous postings continues to appear...

The score sheet ...... How it works trumps how it should work ......

I have had luck with a shorter LOP when going to a higher rib .... having a somewhat equal increase in the drop at heel as the decreased LOP doesn't...

I agree, it can ...... Some critique the ATA for not using modern communication avenues currently available ...... The same communication avenues are...

To create a optimal handicap "system", you need understand "knowledge vs wisdom" ...... "knowledge is a tool, and wisdom is the craft in which the...

Are you asking about "Events", or the "system" ?????? Two different questions .....