Think about it ... some post past member numbers at 70,000 or more, and the record high number shooting the GAH is 5,000. The tunnel-vision is...
Best guess would be the HOF insure the structure ... why would the state care if it was a loss ???? They do not appear to have a future use for it.
Jake's Bait Shack Built by the top ATA/HOF Master-Baiters for their personal pleasure ....
The contractor must have used someone's Walmart calculator when pricing that place by the square-foot .... :D
I would like to have been the one paid 2.1 million for that job ..... Unless there is 1.6 million dollars worth of gold fixtures inside.
I think it is a concern for the other 50 'off-weeks' when there will be functional firearms for the taking.
"That's why I say we need to amend the setting rules for the sake of our sport, not the top dogs." .... And until the "Top Dogs" are treated the...
"The top shooters will break anything you throw, not so for the average shooters playing our games." Who complained ?????? Was it B,C, or D Class...
"I never hear talk of over throwing the leadership at the clubs I attend. " .... I assume you are referring to ATA leadership .... Because ... If...
'Trap-talk' is the same in most Club-Houses, and even at the Grand in most gathering places. It has been that way for the very long time I have been...
Hang on .... did I read that right ????? Did N1H1 'defend' "Longshot" ?????? "2. If you respond "along gender lines," why can't Longshot?" ......
"Will we see any interruption in the scheduled events?" .... "but for those of us coming to shoot it would be a real issue" .... Would that be an...
And the 'cyber-land' old-man chat-rooms would be a very boring place without it ..... Ever go into a 'port-a-potty' and NOT look down the...
"LS tops that in a runaway!" ... You have to admit N1H1 ... He has the ability to drag you out of silence ...
"If you use the State of Illinois numbers, they come up to $157,416.66 per month" .... you have to also keep in mind that is an 'average' ..... The...
"Stay tuned!" ... for what ????? "Lynn Gipson" has made some public statements that the Grand will be in Sparta for years to come ... "Word is the...
There are shoots that have dropped target requirements. You would need enough of a history to be placed where you may fit. The problem the ATA will...
You would think ALL the Pro-Sparta people, most who have NEVER went, would NEVER make the same mistake as the dumb Ohio people and NOT GO and support...
FWIW ... The first trip I made we stayed in the Super 8 in Belleville, next trip we stayed in a house that the Owner rented for the Grand ... and IF...
Is it called a 'Trap-house' because that looks like a 'trap-door' in the picture over the hole in the ground .... or does 'Trap' come from live bird...
How can "Taylor" shut down a shoot ????? what happened to, you must file a complaint, complete with details, put it through the 'system', following...
"it was started by a all-American shooter who had a bad day in a singles event" .... NO WAY !!!! N1H1 has spent years, graphs, charts, and a bunch...
That is a long way to just say paying the 2.1 million 'up-front', is equivalent to paying ten years of 'lease-payments' for a building of that...
If it is my money "a $2.1 million property", "property" being 'real estate' with no debt, it would be $21,000.00 a month/$252,000.00 per year in a...
"Back to the point, look at the ATA in Vandalia. They spent money on property they didn't own there." .... They spent money with the intent of...
Just to make my post(s) clear .... I did not use the word "profit(s)" .... I have not read anywhere that there are any 'plans' as far as making,...
IF .... the HOF decided to charge a fee to visit .... it would be safe to say many would not visit. But .... let's say 3,500 people pay ten dollars...
"look at many large corporation's leasehold improvements. Look at many franchised businesses. Look at any business operating on municipal lands."...
"Vendors are not a problem." ..... do tell ..... you must know much more than me ..... you have my attention. If having a 'big shoot' is the ONLY...
The 'biggest' problem I could see is for Vendors. To sell firearms it requires a FFL for that location in a building, nothing mobile, or at least...
Leonidas why don't you call and ask ???? Isn't that what you recommend to others who have questions like this ????
Nothing to do with "convenience" ..... It is stupid from a tax revenue point .... Walmart pays property tax, inventory tax (unsold shells), local...
And the beat goes on .... The 'shell sales' being directed back to the complex for many, will only take business away from a local location that...
"no more money going into the WSC and enough money coming out each year to pay the bond obligations that were sold to fund the WSC" .... Sounds like...
"I'd like to know more about my kingdom" .... then start a new thread about that topic .... My 'comment' was about something you said about this...
"negative connotations" .... no .... just an observation ....
What a paradox .... the King of semantics, "I hope that this does not signal a decision by the EC to enforce "guidelines" rather than rules." ....
"I assume no one thinks it would be sportmanlike" .... for D-class shooters to get pounded with A, AA, and AAA scores .... year after year .... and...
What happened to the Kool Aid crap that the "best shooter will ALWAYS win" .... Now .... to prove a mythical point .... you say ALWAYS is not ALWAYS...
There are targets lost everyday as a result of THAT shell, working with THAT choke, producing THAT pattern ... shot at THAT target, that may be...
The purpose of increased yardage is to increase the probability of a lost target for ANY reason ..... Handicap ..... EACH high score is a...
The largest effect of "high-altitude" is the view from a "high-horse" .....
"sportmanlike to banish any member to a yardage where the limiting factor is the equipment" ..... A 'short-yardage schmuck' can hit a target, dust...
Thank You wpt ... "Secret's breed contempt, doubt, and suspicion if you need proof check back over the past 15 years ... If you have nothing to hide,...
The ATA has served a fresh batch of Kool Aid ..... The "Governor of Illinois" could only be guilty of "political posturing" .... IF Sparta/WRSC was...
Most people only need to see something from a consumer's perspective, because that is what they are. But, if you look at Sparta/WSC from a business...
No .... I am not a Sparta fan .... but took the time to go check it out a couple of times. Heck, it takes "10 or 15 minutes at most" to get off the...
"outside normal is merely guess work and open to interpretation, first by the shooter himself, by the scorekeeper, then possibly by management" .......
Can some of the pro-Sparta shooters tell everyone how they spend their day there ..... I am very interested in the people who do not have a...
"Has anyone ever gone thru this hell besides us? " I shy away from treads like this because of the personal pain it invokes .... My father was my...
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