"the ATA group would be done is when the money runs out." .... not going to happen that way. When the Donald Trump want-to-be's let their greed open...
The problem with 'fixing' the "ATA" is they have mastered pandering to keep the cash flowing their way. Look at the 2016 All American 'team' list...
Brad, I have no doubt you knew Leo best on a personal level. Talking about him in past tense brings emotion to the conversation. And I don't think...
Do you have to attend the shoot closest to where you live ????? Or can you go where the weather may be better, and/or where the 'better' shooters are...
Does anyone have a clue what the "ATA" is working on/looking for ?????? A location for a shoot ????? or a new home for a "year-round" vendor and...
A "Telephonic Grand" may be interesting for the All American points and option money. What if .... one location only has one red-hair, left-hand,...
Time to get the crayons out and start drawing pictures. Where would a "year-round vendor" live ???? Where are their businesses located ???? What...
We must not forget they 'fixed' the "problems" with the sign on the wall during the Grand. There are even pictures of the sign as proof the...
If you miss it, this, "Two years ago the ATA announced a move to Sparta but changed its mind." is in there, and the date this was published is...
Here is a fun read from 2003 for anyone that has doubt about the ATA being involved in the sham....
The State of Illinois had no reason to build it without the ATA. If you read the "lease agreement" they built it to ATA specifications. And, if a...
"3. Hope and pray that it's not to late" ... and ... "4. See to it that any criminal activity by past or current EC members leads to jail time" If...
Dan @ Giacomo Sporting USA has enough TM 1 parts to keep every one in the country going for decades to come.
"the boondoggle known as the World Shooting and Recreation Complex in Sparta" ... that is funny. boon·dog·gle North Americaninformal noun noun:...
Go with the sugar-free Kool-Aid, you stand a very good chance at being diabetic with the high sugar version.
"excellent business men" would not take it with a 1099. I can find much more fun ways to waste a couple of million bucks a year.
From the land of the lost .... "SPRINGFIELD — A pause in state layoffs won’t stop the planned closures of the state’s museum system nor its...
PS ... in anticipating something like this I have Zebco reel mounts available for most Trap-guns, including K and P gun ribs with eyelets threaded in...
There is GREAT news that they are ONLY closing the "shooting areas" in Sparta. The HOF will open as Leo's Lures and there will be clinics for left...
Very sad, Pete was a very down to earth Trapshooter with great ability. And he was the best person to 'tune' Kolar release triggers to the way the...
When the leader(s) are consumed with preserving the location of their businesses, and trying to 'sell' bad decisions, they tend to ignore the bread...
You are hard on yourself mdj67. You are a member and you are on here.
You do not have to "file" a judgement, it is part of the court records that the clerk's office has. They, the clerk or court, do not "attaches, or...
You said "becomes" ... now you say "As soon as it's filed". Why would you need to "file" something that "becomes" ???? You should pay more...
"a judgement becomes a real property lien" .... really ???? Do tell, that sounds interesting. When/how does "a judgement become(s) a real property...
Twenty two bucks for drinks and 'tip' the table dancers ... WOW ... the tables should be heavy-duty and have a place to hold the ears of corn.
"If there is a lien on the building then who does that affect?" ... any future buyer. A "lien" has to be 'taken care of' (paid if valid) to transfer...
N1H1 .... What would the 'bet' be for the location of the 2016 Grand ?????? And .... I understand your 'bet' was directed at the first post, but the...
Middletown S.C. would probably be the location to 'host' the Ohio State Shoot. They have 'room' to expand their trap-line, and there were 'talks'...
"I don't know why the ATA's biggest event is a handicap." The allure of "Trapshooting handicap" WAS money. If someone 'wins' 500 bucks they will...
My first short sensible "statement". Jo2 is a FIRST CLASS ASS .one.two.three.four.five.six
Biggest issue is format .... The ATA format solves 'yardage' and 'class' issues for 'large shoots' .... You would not have enough time to shoot if...
Why would someone need "therapy" for talking openly about the 'ATA' ???????????? It is something that doesn't go down well with Kool Aid, but it is...
We can talk Global warming if everyone wants to .... But ... If you are interested it the "ATA" you must open your eyes .... The newly elected VP...
"Look forward to your logical solutions ." ..... OK ..... In the real world 'positions' are performance based, things go well, you stay, they go...
Thank You for realizing I am "Special" ... And let me say I think it is great that custodians are now considered "in retail" .... Every Walmart...
"And if I had to guess you live closer to Vandalia..? just a guess" .... The Missouri Fall Handicap is a greater distance from "my house" than...
" I am sure he is basing that on what he see's in his area but that is not the existing situation I observe locally." Read your own words and think...
I have been to Sparta and shot there .... and I have been to the "beer tent" at both .... My travel expense to get to Sparta was ZERO/FREE .... I...
The 'ATA' is 'in charge' of 'their' shoot format ... and shooters are not interested in their offerings ... so who's 'fault' is it ?????????? the...
Jo2 made a very good post, if some will stop long enough to read it and let it sink in. The ATA wants to keep donors on the hook for money, while...
Your confused AZCO .... Not the Sparta old home grounds .... the other one ....
N1H1 ... the 'details' of a bad decision may be interesting to some ... but they are a moot-point. Shooters will not go, and have shown that for 10...
It has to be "a super nice place to shoot" .... D-class singles winning scores 98, 97, 98 .... and doubles D-class 91, 96, 94, 97 .... not too bad...
The sign is GREAT about the "dates" of the 2016 Grand ... but did it include 'WHERE' it is going to be ??????
Sandbagging .... Big Dogs need wins for points .... points for shells and 'other' things .... and B,C, and D-class wins are looking pretty good about...
Think about it Doc .... Would you make your job harder if you didn't have to ??????????? I can tell you if I was one of the 'names' you "called...
"Rules state angles can be set beyond 17 degrees, height is 8-10 feet with a recommended 9-1/2 setting. Distance flight up to 51 yards" .... That...
"Robert Munson HOF, "difference (between 2 hole and 3 hole settings) is all between the ears." .... you may want to ask if he changed his mind .......
The thing those working hard on a "new plan" may want to consider .... is .... The ATA may be able to save the Grand/Sparta .... but the...
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