SCTP gone can WSRC stay afloat?

Discussion in 'Trapshooting Forum - Americantrapshooter.com' started by otto, May 5, 2017.

  1. otto

    otto Member

    Can the WSRC stay afloat without the SCTP big shoots? Someone has to pay to keep the lights on. Who?
     
  2. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    The State of Illinois is in financial distress so that means any and all of the recreational areas, State Parks etc are also ... The SCPT did not make or break the WSRC, to location of it did being as they can't draw much of a crowd as confirmed by the attendance records ever since they relocated to Sparta, Ill ... It is not a direct reflection on Sparta per'se, but the lacking of infrastructure in the immediate area and extra driving on a daily basis appears to keep people away ... The State cannot afford to keep investing in a venture that does not ever support itself to the point of breaking even ... The facility according to many is second to none, but the location leaves a lot to be desired ... When the "Premiere event" of the year cannot attract 2,000 entries you do not need a crystal ball to tell you there is a problem ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  3. Win101

    Win101 Mega Poster

    There is a SCTP Midwest Regional Shoot at the WSRC C
    coming up 5/16- 5/21 2017.
    The regional is the only SCTP event scheduled this year.
    Maybe the Nationals will come back next year.
     
  4. otto

    otto Member

    SCTP is contracted with the Cardinal Center for the next 3 years.
     
  5. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    People seem to forget that the State of Illinois not the SCTP cancelled their shoot a few years ago ... The SCPT did the most logical thing and moved on and into the waiting arms of the folks at the Cardinal Center ...The schedule at WSRC means nothing, the State can and will cancel anything they want , when they want and there is nothing any one can do about it ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
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  6. Win101

    Win101 Mega Poster

    2016 was the first year the SCTP went to the Cardinal.
     
  7. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Probably the best move the SCTP ever made based on the way things went for them in Illinois (WSRC) ... Illinois just up and cancelled the schedule for the remainder of the year not giving 10 cents worth of thought to those who were on or part of the years scheduled events ... Business as usual for the State of (Disaster), Illinois ... One of the prettiest sights I ever seen was Illinois in my rear view mirror when I was leaving, even the air smelled better ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  8. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    BUDGET + TAX / Article
    May 2, 2017
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    Now Illinois is in the midst of its worst fiscal crisis ever, and yet another bad deal is on the horizon. The Illinois Senate’s proposed “grand bargain” would hit Illinoisans with billions in higher taxes because it has no real reforms to address out-of-control spending drivers.

    Though politicians are facing pressure to pass any budget plan to avoid yet another credit downgrade, Illinoisans can’t afford another bad deal – and the state can’t afford to try another Band-Aid fix in hopes of staving off the day of reckoning. Bad deals are what got Illinois into its current mess. Instead, the state needs a plan that actually solves Illinois’ structural problems.

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    Every one of those deals had something in common – they all avoided fixing Illinois’ structural spending problems.

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    Illinois will reap the fruits of decades of reckless spending and misguided priorities – either now or a few years down the road in the event politicians paper things over with a “grand bargain.” Here’s what Illinois is facing:

    1. A credit downgrade to junk. Credit rating agencies have warned they’ll downgrade the state’s credit – possibly down to junk status. A downgrade will cause all kinds of pain for Illinoisans, the most immediate being the diversion of more of the budget from core services to pay for much higher borrowing costs.But the bigger cost will be, notwithstanding Illinois’ already low reputation. No state has ever been rated junk before.[​IMG]Small businesses, entrepreneurs and families will have to contend with either coming to or staying in a state with a governance structure not unlike those of failed states in emerging markets – corrupt processes, massive deficits, sky-high taxes and out-migration. Families and businesses have 49 other options from which to choose, and all are rated better than Illinois.
    1. Unpaid bills will skyrocket. Illinois currently has nearly $12 billion in unpaid bills, which, under the current impasse, are expected to total nearly $25 billion by early 2019.
      With that staggering pile of unpaid bills, there will be very little choice for the General Assembly but to pay them off by borrowing money. The state’s total long-term debt could nearly double to $53 billion if that happens. That will drive up borrowing costs to unprecedented levels.[​IMG]
    1. Illinois’ borrowing costs will soar even higher. With dramatically more debt and a junk bond rating, Illinois’ borrowing rate would continue to rise compared with AAA-rated states. Neighboring Indiana, Iowa and Missouri are AAA-rated.Today, Illinois borrows money at a 5 percent rate, compared with just 3 percent for states with AAA ratings. That 2-percentage-point penalty already costs Illinois $20 million dollars extra each year for every billion dollars the state borrows – valuable resources that could go toward core government services.With more downgrades potentially on the way, expect that penalty rate to jump and Illinois to divert even more of its budget toward interest costs.[​IMG]
    1. More social programs and other services will be cut. The interest costs alone on $25 billion in new borrowing to pay down the state’s unpaid bills will total $1.25 billion, assuming today’s borrowing rates.That money won’t go to help Illinois’ most vulnerable residents or shore up struggling social services. Instead, that massive amount will go to Wall Street.To understand how big that annual interest payment would be, consider the fact that the Pay Now Illinois coalition of approximately 100 different social and human service groups is suing the state for payment on $161 million of its unpaid bills.That $161 million is just a fraction compared with what Illinois would pay on just the interest on its borrowing by 2019.[​IMG]
    1. Pension costs will continue to grow out of control. Illinois owes $130 billion in state pension debt, up nearly $100 billion from a decade ago. Without real reforms, that crisis will continue to grow.[​IMG]As Illinois’ pension debt rises, so will the cost necessary to keep pensions funded. Illinois already spends nearly $8 billion a year on pension costs – nearly 25 percent of its general fund budget.By 2019, Illinois will have to put another $1 billion annually into pensions instead of funding other core services.
    A bad budget solves nothing

    Illinois’ continuing crisis will build pressure for a bad “compromise” deal such as the Senate’s “grand bargain,” which proposes tax hikes as a Band-Aid substitute for necessary reforms.

    Illinoisans have already seen that a tax hike won’t solve the state’s problems.

    Illinois’ economy, its credit rating and its job market suffered during the 2011-2014 period when Illinois tapped taxpayers for nearly $32 billion during the state’s temporary income tax hike. New money flowing merely relieved Illinois lawmakers from pressure to enact needed reforms to unsustainable cost drivers. Politicians simply spent the funds. And Illinois suffered several credit downgrades during the hike.

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    Illinoisans don’t need more painful, counterproductive tax hikes. They need real spending reforms that fix the state’s structural problems.

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  9. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    WPT, Facts? Is all you have are these damn facts? I do like the graphs, makes me think of Winston. No I'm just kidding, keep up the reporting you'll be replacing Merlo soon. Brad