Release Trigger Issues-He Can't Let It Go

I have a shooter having release trigger problems-he can't release the trigger. I told him to practice setting the trigger in his basement, moving to a spot on the wall and letting it go.multiple times until it becomes second nature. He's fine in the basement but keeps pulling the trigger on the trapfield without releasing. Any suggestions? Please understand he's an old and Italian.

 

Being old should not be a problem, but that other description does not help. Roger C.

 

My scores plummeted when I changed the position of my finger on the trigger. Instead of the tip, I had the trigger in the first joint. Nowadays, AR platform shooters use "too much finger" in the trigger with good results, but when shooting a release, not so good.

Watch your friend and see how he is setting the trigger.

 

Why is he trying to shoot a release? I've known people who simply cannot come to terms with a release.
OTOH is he a one or two eye shooter? His neural blockage is likely the same basis as most flinchers looking for the perfect sight picture thru one eye.
Can he shoot a pull trigger? Make him shoot a pull w/ both eyes open for a few weeks and then try the release again if he thinks he needs that.
just a thot

 

I'd say his problem started when he started shooting a TM-1 with a 1.5lb. trigger. Of course, it when off early a few times causing him to back away and flinch a bit.

 

1.5 lb. trigger is OK if you are A TRIGGER SLAPPER. Not worth a chit if you just squeeze it. You do not get enough feel on the trigger and it fires, best way in the world to develop a flinch. Roger C.

 

olie, that's not realy a problem, I cannot set the trigger with the gun on my sholder. also I shot the trap house on wed night, first time in 45 years. help rvh

 

I lack the desire to shoot a release so I have a problem adjusting to them under any circumstances ... I have some for Model 12's that I have put in the gun if someone needs to borrow one ( who can't shoot a Model 12 ..? ) but I do not like them for my personal guns ... I have all of my triggers at 3 1/2 pounds and only on a rare occasion would I flinch ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Congratulations, you've developed a set flinch. Depending on the type of gun you can usually set the trigger with the action open then close the gun. You're among many-including me.

 

Oh man, I could go so many ways with this But I won't

In the 36 years since we started duck hunting together I've seen some funny stuff but that would have been one of the best.
I would have bought two tickets to see that.

In all seriousness Bud, Fred A.has been closing the gun before he shoulders it for years. You know until he did that he had taken the paint off a trap house at every club in the area. I think he even had to buy a cord before they had voice releases.

Give it a try like the dawg said, can't hurt. All it's going to cost you is some green paint.

 

Seems to be a gathering of mental defectives

I suspect that I'm in a minority but I think the light trigger rifle mentality is nothing less than stupid with a shotgun. Just for example, Perazzis are /were pretty much factory fresh at +/- 4.5lbs for a few decades. Berettas too. I don't have anything later than '84 so I can't comment about current trends. Some time ago I heard about the light trigger/flinch idea and it seems to me to have some real merit.
All JMO of course - - - shoot whatever you like

 

The diffference between a rifle and shot gun trigger is, a rifle you must gently squeeze the trigger, a shot gun is not a gentle squeeze. It is violent compared to the rifle. Roger C.

 

As I recall, Daro Handy not only had a trigger that set at a very high pull, like 10+ pounds, and released at about the normal release pressure or slightly higher, but he also set his trigger with his gun down then mounted it.

 

That's how quite a few old timers dealt with a set flinch. We often got in old Model 32 Krieghoffs with extra large modified sear springs that greatly increased set pressure. There are easier ways I think.

 

A lot of shooters watch some good shooters with a release,they think a release is what they need but not for everyone..

 

When I was shooting comps I used a R/P cuz I decided that the combo provided the best approach to the games I was shooting. Had nothing to do with flinching. After quitting paying ridiculous fees to see my name on the score sheets time passed and I saw that continuing to use the release severely limited my choice of new toys so I went back to P/P and offed the releases. Works fine. Less is more. New toys - YUM!

 

The release absolutely kept me in the game. Now balance issues are rearing their ugly heads, need to shoot sporting so I can lean against the front rail of the station. Have to pick where I shoot. Ain't old age grand?

 

Getting old is better than the alturnitive. Roger C.

 

We do not know that for sure Roger, we might be missing something ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Maybe you should check it out and get back to us on that - prolly be a lotta people interested in a first hand report
just sayin'

 

FYI: I been clinically dead 3 times (heart beat, not breathing ) so I figure Heaven don't want me and Hell is afraid I'm going to take over ... I did not see any lights, hear any voices, felt very warm if that is in indication of anything ... Last time I had a colonoscopy, they poked a hole in my colon and none of the Doctors figured I was ever going to leave the hospital alive, even the surgeon said it was tough and go for a while ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Wow, the post goes from a guy that can't let go of a release trigger to near death experiences.

No wonder this is the best site around.

 

I guess you COULD say that when a guy with a release lets one go into the grass in front of the 16 yard line the earthworms that were right next to the divot had a near death experience.

We were shooting 50 per trap years ago, I was on 4, and the guy on 5 touched one off on his third target. After the laughter stopped we finished out the round. Between rounds I taped a small White flag made from a drink cup cone on a stick and stuck it near the trench.

When he walked up to 5 for the second round he saw it. I told him the earthworms must have surrendered. That started another two minutes of laughter until we all settled down. If I remember correctly we had a 247/250 on that trap, and the guy with the release actuated ditch digger had one of the 50's.

I SHOULD write a book.

 

with lots n lotsa pictures, graphs, and pull-out diagrams

 

Pictures would be nice but when this stuff happens it happens quickly and there isn't time to find a camera. A lot easier now with cell phone pics but back then not so much.

Graphs? I don't think so. Every time I see a graph on here it gets boring in about 3 seconds. I rather have the swine flu,
AKA, the N1H1 virus.

Pull out diagrams? Tough to diagram most of them.

Duck season in PA and we were on interstate 79 heading for the swamp in my buddy's brand new full size Bronco.
On top is tied down an 18' fiberglass "Lake" canoe.
We have made this same trip 3 times a week for the last 3 weeks.
4:00 AM and foggy, and we hit a patch of Black ice going around 60 mph.
The thing fishtails three or four times and catches the right rear quarter panel on the guardrail.
The pinging noise was the 4 ropes holding the canoe snapping from the impact. Damn thing went straight up the highway like It was shot from a cannon.
After an absolute professional job of recovering control we are sitting in the wide grass median which has about 2' of snow on it. The vehicle is far enough off the road that it is tough to see in the fog.
After scrambling out of the vehicle and up the slight incline of the median we see the canoe sitting across both lanes of the interstate. Holy ^%&* that was close.
As we get closer to the canoe we hear in the near distance the sound of what we know is an 18 wheeler going as fast as he can to get to his next stop.
Just as we get the canoe off the highway an onto the shoulder the big Red Freightliner goes by at 70 mph with the air horn blasting

We retied the canoe, continued on, and made the swamp before daylight. The canoe did have a slight crack in the bottom. You should have heard the replies coming out of the dark at the put in area of the swamp when we asked if anyone had any duct tape. True story, ask the guy that has the #7 post on this thread. Tough to diagram that one.

We laughed all day about the driver of that 18 wheeler and the story he was going to tell at the next breakfast joint he went into.

You guys are going to think I'm nuts but I just saw two guys standing on the shoulder on 79.

So, maybe their car broke down and they were walking for help.

There wasn't a car or truck around that I could see.

OK, but what's the big deal about seeing two guys on the interstate? I've seen plenty of people walking on the highway.

There isn't any water around the section of 79 either.

Again, so what?

They were pulling what looked like a fiberglass 18 foot CANOE!

I'm laughing now just thinking about it.

 

Back in the day I had a comp 1 single with a release. Never had a problem setting the trigger on my shoulder , my problem was wanting to let go of the whole gun. Got rid of the trigger because of shooting in cold weather never wore a glove could not feel the trigger. Went back to a pull.
Rvh if you shot a trap house it was one of the few things you ever hit.
flyers I remember the canoe . Hunted with him people thought we were in two boats