POLL - Deal or No Deal - POLL Cardinal Center & ATA

Discussion in 'Trapshooting Forum - Americantrapshooter.com' started by merlo, Aug 6, 2019.

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Is a deal imminent between the ATA and the CC?

  1. NO

    23 vote(s)
    74.2%
  2. YES

    8 vote(s)
    25.8%
  1. merlo

    merlo Mega Poster Forum Reporter

    Our new friend at the top is quiet now. “Decade” is being kicked about. My source says the ATA can’t afford to say no. But they will.

    Source says BOD won’t see it.

    What could go wrong if Gipson is negotiating the deal?

    I report. You decide.
    Merlo out
     
  2. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    I don't think Mr. Fishburn's advisors are that dumb to let the ATA come in there and rule the roost.

    Things are going along just fine without more ATA intervention.
     
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  3. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    They didn't give in the first time but maybe a better deal is in the offering.
     
  4. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    This should be interesting, I doubt Mr Fishburn is going to hand over the keys to anyone anytime soon ... Rumor Vultures circling that Illinois is going to pull the plug on future operations at the WSRC (nothing has been validated as of yet ) but past practices are hard to break ... I guess we will all find out when the time is right or it will be on a need to know basis ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
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  5. lord maker

    lord maker Mega Poster Founding Member

    I would weep openly if the Grand came to the CC.
     
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  6. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    Lord maker, would you be happy or sad? I would not mind if the Grand came to OHIO as long as it left the EC and BOD in Sparta. A change of officers would be the only way they should bring the Grand to The CC. They can not be trusted to be in charge of the ATA anymore. They have almost destroyed the ASSOCIATION. Roger C.
     
  7. chris henr

    chris henr Active Member

    If The ATA Wants To Grow They Have To Get Away From Illinois. The Grand In That State Is A Slap In The Face To Anyone That Supports The 2nd Amendment .There Are People Who Don't Shoot The Grand Because Of This. If The ATA Wants The Grand To Truly Be Grand They Have To Get The Hell Out Of That State. Just My 2 Cents.
     
  8. lord maker

    lord maker Mega Poster Founding Member

    I would be happy. I should have been more clear.
     
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  9. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    The EC has a offer to consider. If they approve the Amateur Trap Assoc. will be saved for the shooters. If not it could be the speeding up of the end.
    Gipson, Is not smart or willy enough to put one over on the owner of the C.C. (even if he offers free targets)

    Roger C.
     
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  10. lord maker

    lord maker Mega Poster Founding Member

    So whats the offer? As of 630pm Sparta time, there is still one jet and one prop plane at the Sparta Airport.
     
  11. The Phantom

    The Phantom Village Idiot Village Idiot Forum Leader

    NIAGARA FALLS ! ! ! Slowly I turned.....step by step.....inch by inch.....
     
  12. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    So that is why they are in a hurry to pay for the THOF BARN that Illinois owns.

    They would not be sued by the state for payments left on the loan.
     
  13. BAMA

    BAMA Mega Poster

    You guys are pissing up a tree. Nothing will change at Sparta. Too much invested.
     
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  14. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Possibility Mr. Fishburn and his people were there to accept the Award from White Flyer on behalf of the Cardinal Center for amount of targets (Mega) they put in the air ... Anything is possible ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  15. HistoryBuff

    HistoryBuff US Navy Retired US Navy Retired Founding Member Forum Leader Official Historian Member State Hall of Fame

    If I understand the matter correctly, the museum building belongs to the Illinois Department of Natural Resources. They own it free and clear.

    The museum is not collateral for the loan(s) secured by the Trapshooting Hall of Fame. In case of default, the loan(s) are secured by the organization's financial portfolio not the building. The museum is not the THOF Inc.'s property to use as collateral.
     
  16. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    The stupid incompetent a$$ holes that set up the HOF building should be liable for the full cost of retitution to the donors for the money they were scammed out of. They knew going in the building would belong to the state of Ill.
    I wonder how much of if any of the supposedly building cost were actually juiced back to the perpetrators. They should be ashamed of them selves. Roger C.
    P.S. The ATA does business in every state, I do not think that only the state of Ill. can call for an audit of their actions. Any A.G. can bring charges if they wish to. Roger C.
     
  17. The Phantom

    The Phantom Village Idiot Village Idiot Forum Leader

    R.I.C.O.