Oliver North - New President NRA - Right guy?

Oliver North is the new President of the NRA. Is he the right guy? Just wondering.

 

Might as well, eh?
I mean, how often do you get the opportunity to hire someone to head your embattled organization who has admittedly lied to congress while under oath and while wearing his military uniform?
Probably a good way to win over the public.

 

The other choice would of been Obama, we all know how much he loves the United States and the people of the United States besides that he never lies ... Jake you must be a member of the democrap under ground, I question your Patriotism based on some of your responses, they come across as stupid and juvenile as well as uncalled for ...Now go and pray to allah so your on good terms with him and rub your Hildabeast dolly ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

I cant hear the tone of Jake's post but I feel it's vibration I think. North is not a great speaker anymore. He isn't going to win over the far right which we already have. In the eyes of many lawmakers he is a law breaker. According to the the UCMJ he is a lawbreaker. I think we need to re-think this one. jmho

 

If you look back at what was said when he testified and why he says he lied ... He was ( and will always be a Marine ) and did what he was told to do like any good Marine would of done under the circumstances (carry out orders) ... I am not saying that justifies what he did but its as good a reason or better than lies told by the Obama and those in his administration that cost many lives ... Just imagine the lies that were told to protect an other person after they came back from Nam about how and what happened on occasion ...

The democraps lie if their mouth is moving and it costs people their lives, but that's okay ..? Law makers that are law breakers, Hildabeats said laws are for the little people ... Swear to up hold the Constitution any one ..? Yeah tell me about it ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

No.

 

You know what WPT, my problem is, I love guns and love to shoot. And, making someone like North the spokesperson for our gun rights is just the kind of thing that will eventually lose them.
But, rant on. And, make sure to take the most aggressive and hostile stance you can on our issue.
That will certainly convincing those who don't agree with you.
Good way to win the public and the issue in the long run.

 

Rant on, hostile approach (stance ) , I know your kidding unless you were raised like a sissy that thinks any time someone says something its about you ... You would not make a pimple on Ollie Norths azz when it comes to standing up for whats right and upholding the Constitution ... By the way, I love guns and love to shoot also, I think your paranoia is getting the best of you ... Aggressive and hostile ..? I think not ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Right. Upholding the Constitution like lying to Congress while under oath and in uniform. He's a peach.
He may be your hero but he ain't mine. And, he certainly is divisive.
But I guess you think that is how to win over the public.
I don't.
And, I would be willing to bet I have spent a whole lot more time convincing the public as a profession than you have.

 

Define: " Professional", I have been a professional something or other my entire life ...In my line of work you didn't have to convince any body, you told them once and they did it or died ... Then there were those that were not in control of their faculty's, which then was covered by implied consent ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

PS All my Hero's are dead ... Ollie North is not one of them, neither is Obama ... (talk about lies, he told some whoppers) ...
If you are paranoid about losing your guns keep them locked and loaded, I do .... They can take it but it will be empty when they do ...

 

I am not happy to see Ollie wearing the uniform and lying under oath or representing us, but a President did pardon North. That has a little legal weight. Evidently Ollie did what he did for a President of the U.S. but a liar will be remembered as a liar.

 

First off I never said Ollie North was the best or my choice but he is a better choice than some of what there is to pick from ... There are times in a mans life that he may be called on to do something that goes against his grain (moral character) but he does it because at that time its the lesser of two evils ... Most (typical ) liars will defend their lies rather than fess up and admit that they were in fact lies ... Personally, I do not condone dishonesty but I will not hold it against a man if there is a justifiable reason or he is responding to a Call of Duty, which appears to of been the case in this matter ... Does not make it right, just makes it right at the time ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

So North is hated for being a good soldier to the CIC? Was it because of who was the CIC at the time?

 

Ok wpt. What about those that cross that line over and over and over? Some lie daily. And, are we only talking about lying under oath? Or, does any lie count?

 

Jake ,
You know (hopefully) I do not mean the people who are habitual liars, that lie for absolutely no reason, that is not what this discussion is about ... If a man has to be confronted with telling a lie or getting family members killed, what should he do ..? He can always come back and recant the lie once the threat has been eliminated but can't bring back a family member who was killed for him not telling a lie ... (extreme example)
Ollie North was a (is ) Lifer U S Marine, that in itself says a lot about the mans character which means something to some people and does not to others ... I do not condone lying and would probably choke on the words if I was put in a position where I had no choice ... I lied to my Ex wife, told her I loved her in an attempt to get me some, talk about a mistake .. That lie cost me big time in the end ( no pun intended ) , but I did like her a lot at one time ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

But here you are condoning lying. And, lying to Congress under an official investigation for illegal acts involving selling and running guns to enemies of the U.S. and then transmitting that money to other enemies of the U.S. The man who was not only implicit in doing these illegal and arguably treasonous things but who was also one of the main planners of those events then lies, under oath and in that proud Marine uniform, to Congress.
Now WPT, your big on Constitutional reasons for things and for the protections that document provides to all free Americans. Please tell me where the Constitution says a man can declare allegiance to that document as a Marine and then lie to the very Congress that is given its existence and powers from that document.
And that man is now going to be our national spokesperson for our right to keep and bare arms?
Geez, what could go wrong?

 

Jake,
I give up, you have your opinion, I have mine ... Kind of like an argument with my EX, I let her win because she was not worth the effort to make a point, you and she must be related ... You are not going to lose your guns, those threats have been in existence as long as I have been alive ... If mine it taken from me it will be empty, that much I can tell you ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Yea, yea, cold dead fingers and all that crap. Hold up a one shot, muzzle loading musket and proclaim your fierce independence. How long do you think your going to last if the U.S. Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force and various special forces come after you?

 

I will last as long or possibly longer than you and people like you ... The gun in my hand will be empty if and or when that happens, that I can assure you ... I still say get over your paranoia, you are not going to be losing your guns ... Quit talking like a fool ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Me and people like me? And what kind of "people" are like me?
Glad to know you are so prescient.

 

BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL. Look at most of Jake's posts is all the proof you need WPT. Trolling, probably a LIBERAL lawyer based on his writing style.

 

Some people like to worry about what could happen, but probably never will ... I prefer to address things that have or are about to happen and go forth from there ... Make changes as needed, adjust and always be ready ... Locked and Loaded, I might leave home without my pants but never leave without Justin (Justin Case, My Glock ) ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Firstly, you are incorrect. Read "most of Jake's posts" and you will see I am a verrrry long time trap and shotgun shooter who loves the game and knows quite a bit about it. And, believe it or not, I can shoot.
But that aside, don't know if I should thank you for your sentiments. Coming from a guy who sells shell pouches with giant rebel flags as the motif. http://americantrapshooter.com/index.php?threads/for-sale-shell-pouch.4712/#post-42323
Fly it proud. Let em' know where you stand!

 

I don't think you have to be a liberal to think we could have someone better to win arguments such as good vs evil than someone who lied to congress while in uniform. And FYI, I wore a uniform. He will be good at rallying the troops already on the right but I don't see him winning pr battles with those in the middle. jmho

 

North is going to do the same thing the now president of the NRA does, little or nothing but show up at a few rally's and Rah, Rah the troops on the members dime waving a gun in the air talking about taking it from his cold hands ... The NRA makes some pretty outlandish claims from time to time, many I call and put in the scare tactic column ... I have been a Life member because it was the thing to do, get more renewal notices from them than anything else ... There are not enough people willing to give up their guns without a fight so its not going to happen ... Got my first gun when I was 8 years old, JC Higgins 20 Gauge single shot youth model, passed it on to my oldest who is now going to be 50 years old never once had anyone come for my gun then or now ... Plant a seed, piss on it and watch it grow ... WPT ... (YAC) ...