Jim (sootballs ) Lutz posted (01-11-15) that his father has passed on TS.Com ... I got his permission to post it on this site before doing so ... Jim and Papa John were always together, this is a great loss to Jim and Johns many friends from trapshooting over many years ... Condolances to Jim, the family and Johns many friends ... I met John in Las Vegas at Steve's old place, he was a great guy and a pleasure to talk to and hang with ... wpt ...(yac) ...