ATA average

what it the correct way to get your singles and doubles ongoing average? I've only shot 300 each so far this year..

 

Add up the three scores and divide by three in each category. Roger C.

 

Just go to the ATA Shooter Information Center webpage, enter your ATA number in the box on the left and your history will come right up. https://shootata.com/ShooterInformationCenter.aspx

 

I normally do that but they are 2 shoots behind.. One a month back.!? Thanks for the all the reply's.

 

It's called math.

 

Wow. Funny response. Expected more from this site. I was wrong.

 

Well, it is simple math but some college English and History majors aren't real good at it.

 

One of my buddies who was actually quite intelligent about some things tried to convince me his method of computing ATA averages was correct. Seems he believed you take your first two scores, compute your average then take your next two scores, compute that average then add those two averages and divide by two. Then continue the practice forever. He could be a bit difficult at times.

 

Yes, that's making it harder than it needs to be. My question comes from some say it has to be last 5 shoots for avg. Bus Admin degree here . I do keep my card up to date after each shoot but would like to check it against the ATA site. It's all good

 

And we trust them with a gun ///////// Roger C.

 

The first response gave you the correct way to do it.

Of course Roger meant scores not scares and three not thee but you got the idea.

That Dysinger guy is just a has been that never had to worry about his average.

SINCE IT WAS ALWAYS SO FRIGGIN HIGH!

The rest of us that could only get to around 96+ or so had to do some math. Ain't it a b^%$# that a lousy 92 will bring down a decent average and then you have to break a ton of 98's, 99's and 100's to get it back up there?

 

So true.. Thanks for replying.

 

You are welcome
BTW, I was going to post that it's just simple math but that Dysinger guy beat me to it.

 

I think Tex has a legit question here guys. Say you have 100 or 200 in this target year- is that the average you use, or is there reach back to the previous year until so many scores are logged? I was under the impression that you had to have 3 scores, or you went back to the previous year for scores to compute the average. So if I have a 97 singles average for 2000 targets in 2018, and in 2019 I've carded one score of 88 in a snowstorm, my 2019 average I report at my next ATA shoot is 88?

 

Joe,
Unfortunately there can be a couple of correct answers to your question. I know you have been classifying at Williams County and have probably run into the situation you described more than once. First, if the shoot program specifies what the average is computed on then that is what will be used. This is normally the case at larger shoots that actually send out programs in the mail. As an example, our NW Ohio Zone shoot specifies that classification will be based on the previous years averages NOT current year averages. We did this because the Zone shoot is very early in the shooting season and most shooters don't have many current year targets so the previous target year averages give the best picture of a shooters ability. Many small shoots don't have a printed program that covers how shooters will be classified. In these cases, it is up to the person handling classifications to be as fair as possible to all the shooters entering. What I have always done is try to look at the last 500 or 1000 targets a shooter has turned in. It is important that all shooters at the event are classified using the same method. In your example above, the shooter with a 97 average on 2000 targets the previous year and a single 88 in the current year I would classify as AA if using a 5 class system. I have found that most shooters are honest about their abilities and know what class they should be in. Feel free to call me if you have other specific situations you would like to discuss.

 

Flyersarebest, You reminded me about one year back in the day when I was shooting handicap fairly well and Terry Jordan asked me what my handicap average for the year was, I told him about 5 grand an event. Brad

 

Now THAT was a perfect answer!

 

Don- thanks for the explanation. Our ATA program runs on the software, and we update it prior to every shoot, and it gives a suggested class. Sometimes we run into targets that have been shot at a large shoot that don't show up yet, and the shooter will usually fill us in. We do fall back and look at previous year if not many targets have been shot in the current year. We have several new youth shooting this year, so we will give them a quick lesson on keeping their average card up to date.

 

Thanks for all the comments. Joe here is the thing. Define "if not many targets have been shot". 200, 300, less? Where is your cut off?

 

With Don's explanation, I guess I would suggest looking at the last 500 targets at least. I will bring this up at our meeting next week, maybe I can get some clarification on how we've been doing it. It's easy when we classify for the zone, using the last full year's average. Will chime in after next Tuesday's meeting.

 

Appreciate your time on this