Nascar or ATA ???

Discussion in 'Trapshooting Forum - Americantrapshooter.com' started by BRAD DYSINGER, Jun 11, 2020.

  1. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    I've been pondering something all day today and would like some thoughts from the form members. I can't decide which organization is led by more inept individuals, the ATA or Nascar.

    I was never a die hard Nascar race watcher but I would watch several races a year. When the TV people ramed Danica Patrick down my throat week after week I got sick real quick and cut my watching way back.

    Then with all the new stupid rules where they stop the race 3 times and start over I quit altogether, and then today I see that they are telling what fans they have left that they can't bring a flag, or say what they want to so to Hell with Free Speech, and to top it off you don't have to stand for the anthem. What the Hell are they thinking?

    These guys, or gals, are dumber than Winston and the other ATA EC members were when they moved to Sparta from Vandalia. I see what's going on in all the big cities led by women democrats, Seattle for instance, and I think the biggest mistake this country ever did was giving women the vote.

    Women brought the US Prohibition in the 20's and the woke movement today. Everything they touch they destroy. Make no mistake this BLM movement and antifia is being led by women libbers educated in the big colleges taking classes such as women studies, and social justice, just plain bull shit. No history, no facts, just feel good shit courses and when it blows up in there faces like Sparta did for the ATA who will be left to clean up the mess? People like me, but guess what when the police are gone how are they going to make me do anything? After all I'm one brain aneurysm past giving a shit.
     
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  2. Don Cogan

    Don Cogan Bird Hunter Past OSTA President Founding Member

    I really wish Brad would stop being so politically correct and beating around the bush and just tell us what’s on his mind!
     
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  3. BIG PAPA

    BIG PAPA Forum Reporter Founding Member Forum Reporter

    Brad, just take a deep breath, now tell us what you really think. Quit beating around the bush.
     
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  4. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Don you know that I treat everyone the same at Thorn Bottom and look how many women hunters we have. You also know that Ann will walk 99.9% of all the men hunters she guides into the ground and she does that twice a day. A fat 30 year old man is toast after a hunt with her and these 30 year old boys need to know what those things bouncing between there legs are for. A real women doesn't need special help and then when it goes to shit blame someone else like Pelosi or Obama does.

    When men your and my age stood around and let the the grand move, that was bad enough. Even though we were there to help Jack build up the Cardinal Center and help the osta it was no excuse for letting the EC kill trap shooting in the first place. I told everyone that would listen what the EC was like so my conscious on that subject is clear.. I had no desire to ever be an osta director but when asked I thought I'd try and help out Ohio Trap shooting.

    After 7 years on the board I can say that trap shooting in Ohio was in a pretty good state when I left the osta board. and you can say the same. Trap shooting in the rest of the country is on life support though.

    Now with all the BS going on right now in this country it's even more important to stand up than it was then for trap shooting. We very easily might have to start defending all are rights, and not with just words. The time for talking is running out.

    These boys that have let themselves be castrated need to think about what is ahead for them and what kind of future they want. Giving in never works and you know it. The more people that stand up to these communist women and TELL them what is what the more lives will be saved in the end. Do away with the police, these women are nuts.
     
  5. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    These women are nuts”

    Hell, the demorat woman health advisor in PA even HAS nuts.

    Man, you can’t make this stuff up. I’m surprised wolf didn’t pick an illegal, transgender, black, midget, union organizer.
    That would have gotten him some more votes.

    I hope people are pissed off and don’t have short memories. We should make the election night map one big RED wave

    AGAIN!!!!!!
     
  6. rookieshooter

    rookieshooter Mega Poster Forum Leader

    Now the suckass nfl wants to glamorize the kneeling of Kaeperdick!
     
  7. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    I sort of feel us WHITE "guys" have lost our RIGHTS to the 1st amendment after what NASCRAP has done.

    Sorry, but that's the way I feel.

    It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. But, NASCRAP can ban the "Good Old Boys" who are their fan base from expressing their feelings with the flag ?

    This was HISTORY, why deny it ?

    I truly am done with NASCRAP.

    ATA ? Well, that's another story ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     
  8. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Follow the money.

    If they think it will bring in more money, ticket sales and TV revenue, they would do and or say ANYTHING to make that happen.

    See: PANDERING
     
  9. ljutic329

    ljutic329 Mega Poster Founding Member

    To hell wit NFL, Nascar, CFB, Golf and the NBA.

    Free rent, free money, free telephones free education free food etc. for the Negro. This is becoming stupid. We get to pay for the lazy thugs.

    They need to get off their azzez's and go to work..

    Johnson's 1964 law has backfired.

    Show me someone you give free to and I'll show you a worthless individual that will never work.

    And don't give me the crap about oppression and the Confederate flag, they're all lies
     
  10. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    History Seeker I'm with you. Just to show you how f'd up the country has become since the super black became president I was so pissed off that in the 2010 census I declared myself black hispanic and if you don't believe me just ask Zimmie, Berlet, or Cogan if it's not true. Anyway my kid was in the 173rd in Italia and had a lot of black kids that he was friends with and being like his mom he enjoyed screwing with them.

    He told them that his dad was black hispanic, and they said that he (my son) was really light skinned, plus he had green eyes at which my boy told them that his dad was so light skinned that he often passed as white. I laughed at that story but then he told me the punch line, when MLK day came around his unit gave him the day off with all the other blacks.

    If this ain't f'd up, so I haven't re-registered with the census yet and I'm torn between waiting on all those slave reparations that could be coming my way or embracing my Swedish heritage and declaring myself a viking because with the way things are looking rapping and pillaging may be making a comeback.
     
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  11. Don Cogan

    Don Cogan Bird Hunter Past OSTA President Founding Member

    Brad,
    You did regain a lot of color in your face after your bypass surgery. I can confirm that Brad declared himself a black hispanic on the last census. They census taker tried to tell Brad he couldn’t do that so Brad asked if they were trying to racially profile him? Classic Brad!
     
  12. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    Seems old Doc Parsons once told me that if you ever went hunting pheasants with Brad, the only part of the bird he wanted was the neck.

    Now I almost believe his story.

    Of course those of you who knew Doc, knew he could embellish a story just a bit.

    Sure do miss him and his stories though.
     
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  13. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    It appears to me that people in Oklahoma must be getting fed up too. Fox says that 300,000 have applied for Trump rally tickets for his June 20th Tulsa rally. I doubt Trump would let Pipelier or Gibson anywhere near his organization so we can believe this number. I guess I'm not the only one pissed off.

    Meanwhile in Seattle the people of CHAZ are already asking for handouts. They need guns and cigarettes. It would be easier to sent the bullets in first. I think they should move in a portable Meth Lab for them and pass that stuff out. Free, Free, Free.

    My hunting philosophy has always been shootem where they eat and not where they sheet. Works for trap shooting really well too. By the way on a virus note, my social distancing has always started at 300 yards.
     
  14. Don Cogan

    Don Cogan Bird Hunter Past OSTA President Founding Member

    I wonder why they would need guns? Aren’t they all just peaceful protesters living in their newly created paradise? They don’t need police or guns. If there is a problem I thought they were supposed to call in a social worker to fix it. I can’t believe that well thought out plan is failing after only a day or two.
     
  15. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame


    Don I would probably take a bet that most of those folks can't even spell peaceful. I just hope everyone pauses to realize that you can vote yourself into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.

    Dave Berlet
     
  16. Elsie

    Elsie Mega Poster

    Back to your original question - who is stupider - ATA or Nascar? I'll let somebody else have the first choice and I think I can argue the one I got left with - is the stupidest. LOL

    Really I think I'm probably done with all spectator sports. Spectator sports was supposed to be an escape or a diversion. I don't want to go to a ball game and have a bunch of political bs rammed down my throat. I can hear political discussions all day from the local talk radio station from people who are a lot more articulate and erudite than some ball playing clown who thinks the last two words of the Star Spangled Banner are - play ball.

    The only sport I follow anymore anyway is the baseball and it looks like they aren't going to play this year. And if they do play and I see some clown kneeling or hear some announcer pontificate about social justice or other BS - I'm gone. I have been living without it and found out I don't need it.
     
  17. dr.longshot

    dr.longshot Grudge Match Champion Founding Member Forum Leader Grudge Match Champion

    Can we get that Sausage Vendor we had at Vandalia to come to the Cardinal, I loved the crowds that flocked to that Vendor.
    He was driven away because the ATA wanted a Percentage of Profits and Space Rental, The Sausage vendor opened up across the Street near Freindly's, The ATA Officials went over to buy those good Sausages, After they started that crap we had Carnival food, it went to hell, also lost Budweiser over that decision, took years to get Budweiser back. That only lasted for that shoot.

    GB...……………………...DLS
     
  18. dr.longshot

    dr.longshot Grudge Match Champion Founding Member Forum Leader Grudge Match Champion

    Hate the changes NASCAR Made like Brad Pointed out, They just mentioned to stop the race for tire checks, Then Lightning stopped the race, Track was dry, Cleared the Grandstands, and the tall TV Camera man's perch, as well as all spotters.
    NASCAR Needs to go back to RUN WHAT YOU BRUNG, Do away with Throttle plates, When you got 34 cars all running the same speed, that is not a race, It's like 200 sgls in Trap, it's a miss & Out, Revert back to 100 sgls, you get the same results and it is cheaper, add more Handicaps, I always loved Handicaps, and still do.

    GB...……………………………………..DLS
     
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  19. dr.longshot

    dr.longshot Grudge Match Champion Founding Member Forum Leader Grudge Match Champion

    Like the Indianaoplis 500 the year they ran the Rotary Engine car lost for a bad $10 bearing, It almost LAPPED every car in the race, it lacked compression braking and had to use the brakes to slow down, Wasn't it the Andy Granatelli STP Car?

    GB...………………………………….DLS
     
  20. Otis B. Driftwood

    Otis B. Driftwood Active Member

    Andy’s car was a gas turbine.
     
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  21. Otis B. Driftwood

    Otis B. Driftwood Active Member

    Now if we could get the ATA management and a few professional wrestlers in stock cars I may go to a race again.