If 8 trolleys are missing - how are they accounted for?

Discussion in 'Trapshooting Forum - Americantrapshooter.com' started by merlo, Aug 25, 2017.

  1. merlo

    merlo Mega Poster Forum Reporter

    Curious....if there are 8 trolleys missing, from the original 20, then how can they all be accounted for.

    Does the Executive Director and the Executive Committee know where they are? Where does one hide 8 items the size of a school bus?

    I report. You decide.

    Merlo out
     
  2. T Shot

    T Shot Mega Poster

    That's a good question. If the ATA turned them over to the DNR the ATA may not have any records of them. And how do we know if all 20 came to Sparta? I have been to every Grand and a few of the other shoots and don't remember seeing as many as 20! There 11 on site I looked but that's it.
     
  3. hinerman

    hinerman Active Member

    Give it up T Shot. No one here believes you.
     
  4. T Shot

    T Shot Mega Poster

    Believe what that there are 11 at the WSRC or that no one knows for sure how many were there in the past?
     
  5. hinerman

    hinerman Active Member

    Sure you shot the grand. You shot the SCTP. Give it up. You don't even support the WSRC.
     
  6. T Shot

    T Shot Mega Poster

    Don't be stupid! I have to EVERY Grand since 92! All the ones in Sparta and a few of their other shoots. Got to th WSRC ON JULY 28 and there now. Don't tell me what I support. What about you?
     
  7. just joe

    just joe Administrator Staff Member

    The mods don't care where you. Our security system must be in need of repair. It says you are in Florida.
     
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  8. merlo

    merlo Mega Poster Forum Reporter

    The IDNR says they are accounted for. What is "accounted for"?
     
  9. T Shot

    T Shot Mega Poster

    Ask the DNR they must what they did with the other 9.
     
  10. HistoryBuff

    HistoryBuff US Navy Retired US Navy Retired Founding Member Forum Leader Official Historian Member State Hall of Fame

    I'll say it again . . . . WSRC inventory documents regarding items donated to them show 20 Apache Trolleys with notes relating to the condition of each trolley. Trolleys are identified by an original Serial No. which for some reason has been redacted from public view, and a hand written ID No. presumably created by and for the IDNR system.

    The 20 IDNR trolley numbers are : #457696 thru #457715

    Recent inventory documents show only 12 trolleys.

    PaPa27 counted and photographed 8.



    T Shot reported 11.




    Thanks to those who made the effort to locate and count the trolleys at the WSRC. Many of us appreciate it.

    I believe Merlo has the facts and the documents to prove it.

    Non-believers should conduct their own investigation, but I assure you, the results will be, just as Merlo reported.

    HB
     
  11. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    Thank You HB.

    If there ever was anyone who get's to the bottom of things with FACTUAL evidence, it is YOU.

    Your dedication in attempting to keep us informed of the FACTS is something we all do appreciate very much.
     
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  12. HistoryBuff

    HistoryBuff US Navy Retired US Navy Retired Founding Member Forum Leader Official Historian Member State Hall of Fame

    Thank you Brad's friend I hope. I'm just one of several on this forum who seem to care much more about our organization that the Board of Directors who continue to remain silent on every issue.

    Here's something for those who care and especially for the doubters who won't do their own investigation:

    APACHE TROLLEYS,pg1.jpg
    APACHE TROLLEYS,pg2.jpg

    The above was in a file obtained from a FOIA request, labeled WSRC Trolleys donated from ATA_Redacted. A big "Thank You" to those who continue to ask questions and seek answers using the Freedom Of Information Act.

    Enjoy,

    HB

     
  13. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    I doesn't get much plainer than this HB !

    Once again, thank you for the FACTS !
     
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  14. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Come on Tshot I'm waiting for that snappy response your so famous for. Brad
     
  15. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    I see Tshot is putting all his snappy responses on the Martian HOF thread now for anyone wandering where he is at. Brad
     
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  16. T Shot

    T Shot Mega Poster

    Ok I never HB as a wrong. I just asked to SEE the facts. Not just what Merlo said. By the way he was wrong. I just posted what I saw there.
     
  17. harryone

    harryone Moderator Staff Member

    earth to T Shot,

    Merlo got it right. If you cant read maybe another hobby or class.
    He started this thread by saying....".if there are 8 trolleys missing, from the original 20, then how can they all be accounted for?"

    On the other thread he was talking about a report that 2 were missing this year alone. You must be the dumbest shooter on the line or are a child that cant comprehend what is on his dad's computer. Guessing like everyone else.
     
  18. Michael McGee

    Michael McGee Mega Poster Founding Member

    A few years ago, it was rumored a tractor was missing from the ATA. Maybe the person responsible for taking the tractor thought a few wagons went with it.
     
  19. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    Ummmm, what about the traps that were supposedly missing ???

    Tractor, wagons, both could be used to haul traps also.

    Did the missing traps situation ever get resolved ??? I really don't recall.

    HB's list of all the things missing out there from the original inventory sheet up to this year is amazing...And nobody with authority seems to give a SH**.

    I for one am very disappointed with the EC and BOD.

    Amazing group you have running the store.
     
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  20. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    Maybe they have been having garage sales to help finance the place. My experience with theft at the work place is. Nine times out of ten when major theft is involved, it is perpetrated by a member of the management team. Maybe HB can find out how many trap machines have been purchased and how many remain in inventory. We have heard of two machines that were stripped of parts and had to be scrapped. How about it HB, can you get these figures? Roger C.
     
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