POLL Will there be roll call votes or will votes be kept secret? POLL

Discussion in 'Trapshooting Forum - Americantrapshooter.com' started by merlo, Jul 31, 2019.

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Will there be roll call votes at this year's meeting?

  1. No

    91.3%
  2. Yes

    8.7%
  1. merlo

    merlo Mega Poster Forum Reporter

    We have heard much said the last year about the lack of transparency at the yearly ATA meeting. Will there be roll call votes?

    I report. You decide.
    Merlo out
     
  2. Smithy

    Smithy Mega Poster Founding Member

    What happens in the meeting.....stays in the meeting.
     
  3. Welther

    Welther Active Member

    Dang you guys don't have much faith in your officials. I am hoping there will be a good guy amongst the bunch..
     
  4. HistoryBuff

    HistoryBuff US Navy Retired US Navy Retired Founding Member Forum Leader Official Historian Member State Hall of Fame

    No. Roll call votes are called for occasionally when a delegate or officer wants to insure that the minutes forever reflect how each State representative voted on a specific motion. There should be no opposition to roll call voting in the ATA.
     
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  5. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    SHEEEEIT Merlo !!!!

    You got to be kidding...ha ha ha ha ha

    Transparency does NOT even exist among those guys.

    I wonder just how many actually, REALLY, know what is going on ?

    Heck, when they do take minutes, they conveniently seem to leave out some important parts of names.

    IE: Minutes stated several times during purchase of the ATA offices....PULL LLC

    Gee, somehow the important part ~~~2012~~~ got left off the name of the LLC

    Following meetings APPROVED the minutes of the last meeting without even a whisper of 2012 being left out.

    When officials were notified, and asked to amend the minutes to read correctly 2012 PULL LLC, they NEVER corrected them at all !!!!!

    Should have read 2012 PULL LLC Sure left us in the dark for a time as to who was the owner (s) of that 2012 PULL LLC

    But, by the sharp investigation into this, the members of this site found out.
     
  6. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Well what was the answer, yes or no? Did they have a meeting? Talk about anything? Minutes available anywhere? Anyone talk to their delegate?
     
  7. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Brad, Nobody knows, if they were behind the Iron Curtain .... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  8. Smithy

    Smithy Mega Poster Founding Member

    Skip from PA should have those answers. I think this is the year he was going to participate. But, maybe I have delegates confused.
     
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  9. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    And the winners were. NO roll call vote, not even any mention about offer. Two ATA delegates, one from the east, one from the west told me yesterday at the CC that not even mentioned to them. The Cardinal Center was told to wait to December for an answer, my suggestion to them was tell the ATA offer has a shelf life of 2 weeks and then see you. I think the Cardinal Center is starting to realize that they were being used by Gibson like I warned them. Well live and learn.

    You can't trust snakes and EC members boys, just say no.
     
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  10. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    BRAD, ARE YOU GOING TO LET ALL KNOW WHAT THE OFFER WAS? We would like to know. Roger C.
     
  11. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Going from memory without actual paper in front of me at this time. The CC wanted 15K a day to rent the place to the ATA That would be 10 days a year for 150K a year. The ATA would get the camping money for the shoot, all the targets, fees ect. The CC would build 9 banks (maybe facing south on other side of screen, really bad idea) build a new central entry building, build 100 more camping sites and some other things I can't remember but not major stuff. I think the CC would be responsible for the help too.

    The ATA would also pay 3 cents a target to the CC. It's a ten year deal. This is what I can remember for the high lights. Hopefully Merlo will have the real papers as his info is superior to mind, I don't talk to the EC.
     
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  12. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Mr. Fishburn should have told them he would build another 40 trap fields out in the middle of nowhere, far from any hotels or restaurants, and not near any major highways.

    That way, mike j. and all his pals could shoot there and feel right at home.

    Heheheheheh
     
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  13. Mike J

    Mike J Mega Poster Forum Leader

    Keep dreaming. Ask Fishburn why he spent 4 days in Sparta. The ATA will NOT bail out OH.
     
  14. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Mike J Jack flew home Monday afternoon, I don't know what plane you were looking at. You really should see someone about your drinking. You are starting to stutter type just like Winston did before he went.
     
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  15. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    "HE DESCENDED INTO HELL. ON THE THIRD DAY HE ROSE AGAIN"

    In this case it was sparta but that's close enough.

    It took a little longer but I told you he would be back.
     
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  16. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    I guess I was right.
     
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  17. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    LOL, yes you were