Post your favorite John McCain Meme - I'll start

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  1. The Phantom

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  2. wpt

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    John McCain Hero, think not …


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    Lara Martin
    August 27 at 6:12 PM
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    OK, McCain died. At least the republicans get their seat back. He did not die in action nor did he ever serve honorably. He wasnot a "war hero". He was a disgrace as a US senator. He was going to be court martialed when he got back from Vietnam but his father stepped in saved his rear end and he became decorated instead...he was not a republican...he was a war monger. He voted against getting rid of Obamacare, was an obstructionist to Trump…also was part of the phony Russian dossier AND being so sick should have stepped down a long time ago and let the republican governor of AZ pick his replacement. Most likely his wife gets it which is how the dope in MO McCaskill got her seat when her husband died. McCain IS the poster child for TERM LIMITS!! He did something like 40 years in the senate and all because in AZ they have a cross vote primary. It’s been Democrats for 15 years that have kept him in that seat because they voted for him in the primaries!
    His father was the Admiral in charge of the Pacific fleet prosecuting the war in Vietnam.
    Because of this he got preferential treatment in the Navy. He was allowed to become a Navy pilot. But he was a terrible pilot.
    He crashed two navy Jets in his early career. Then while aboard the Aircraft Carrier USS Forrestal, he got angry because he had to wait in line to take off on a bombing run.
    He shut off his engines, opened the cockpit, and in his haste to exit the aircraft to chew someone out about his having to " wait", he hit the button that released his live bombs onto the deck of the Forrestal.
    He took off running, as the bombs exploded, which set off a chain reaction of bombs from adjacent aircraft, and the ensuing explosions and fires killed 133 sailors aboard the Forrestal.
    While his fellow sailors were fighting the fire, he went to the pilot's lounge below decks and watched the men fight the fire on closed circuit TV.
    Hours later, he took off with a New York Times reporter buddy of his, and went on to say that after seeing the effects of those bombs on the Forrestal, he was beginning to question the morality of dropping those bombs on the Viet Cong.
    He was the direct cause of 133 deaths on his own ship, and was never reprimanded. He was nowhere to be found as the Forrestal had to limp to the Philippines for months of repair work.
    He was married then. His wife was stricken with debilitating injuries in an automobile accident, and while she was hospitalized for more than 5 months, was off gallivanting with anything in a skirt.
    Upon returning from Vietnam Nam, he found his wife was disfigured by her injuries, which included a shattered pelvis, arm, and legs. In order to save her legs, doctors performed 23 surgeries on her, and had to remove significant portions of the bones in her legs, which left her shorter, and unable to walk, and in a wheelchair, she had to use a catheter.
    McCain was disinterested in his first wife's predicament. She had to go through grueling physical therapy to learn to walk again.
    After he left the Navy, he was intent on a career in politics. He and His wife had gotten to know Ronald and Nancy Reagan, and he was eager to jump into politics.
    But he decided he needed a more visually pleasing young woman by his side. He callously divorced Carol, the mother of his three children, and immediately jumped into the sack with new wife Cindy, who was 18 years younger.
    Upon learning of this, the Reagans were shocked and angered by how he had treated Carol.
    While campaigning for congress, he used pictures of himself posing with Mr. And Mrs. Reagan, but there was no hearty endorsement offered by the Reagans.
    His new young wife was also an heiress to an Arizona Brewing fortune.
    And let us not forget he was one of the Keating 5, who had helped swindle life savings from countless Americans in the Savings and Loan scandal of the 1980's. He was in it up to his eyeballs.
    Yet he was well-connected in Washington, and parlayed his connections into a seat in the United States Senate.
    So before the tearful tributes start, be sure you remember the facts about this self-proclaimed Maverick. The facts do not agree with that portrait of a heroic patriot and great American.
    With due respect to his family, he was never the great man so many portray him as.
    I do not wish the man any harm or ill-will. But neither should we allow this false narrative fairy-tale about this scoundrel of a man as he faces his eternal fate.
    And now you know the whole story. Donald already knew the story. So when he was called a draft Dodger just remember there are 133 dead navy sailors that probably wish he had been a draft Dodger rather than an Admirals son.

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  3. The Phantom

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    How could this have happened?????

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  4. wpt

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    Flake is an opportunist and uses the Senate as a key to open doors that would not normally be opened to him .. His son and his wife killed several dogs while supposedly watching them and nothing ever became of it because of Flake being a Senator, he also openly admitted to being a democrat as of late (no surprise there ) , typical Political hack, no effin good for anything ... Some Body obviously crossed he face with a good old fashion punch so hard it bent his nose over to the side, looks like a clown with no make up ... He never would of been re elected so he quit ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
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  5. Roger Coveleskie

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    I hope we can replace Flake, and McCain with REPUBLICAN'S in the next election. The fake news people are trying to make a hero out of McCain. Sorta like trying to make a silk purse from a pigs ear.
    He is a hero to the sick Dem's and not to the people that could see that he was an egotistical angry person. Roger C.
     
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  6. Jakearoo

    Jakearoo Mega Poster Forum Leader

    WPT, the vast majority of your rant is just pure crap. When you post that shit, give a source that is legitimate. Not infowars, not Lew Rockwell, not alt.right BS. Real, verifiable sources. Do you even know what those sources are? Or, is anything that does not comport with your world view "fake news."
    Posting this stuff without sources you just show you to be someone who passes along hyperbolic gossip. And LOTS of it.
     
  7. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Jake,
    If you are to lazy or to stupid to seek out and find the information on your own as I did, I can't help you nor would I want to, to be completely honest with you ... There is a wealth of information out there for people who are sincerely interested in the Truth, the Whole Truth and nothing but the Truth ect ... I have presented more facts to you than any other person that comes to mind in recent years and you in your easily convinced RINO believing mind only want to complain and bitch because its not what you want it to be or what you think it is in your pea brain so you try to insult people by saying they are not patriotic Americans because they do not believe the Bull Shit you are clinging onto ... McCain was, is, and will always be a fraud that got credit for other peoples actions and even lives much like his asshole Buddy Obama who was, is, and will always be a useless, gutless underachiever who gets credit where credit is NOT DUE ... The records show your HERO served 20 actual hours in Combat so based on that he got a medal for every 1 and a half hours he was in actual combat ... I'm not talking about a POW camp where he was advised to stay by his Father so he could not be reactivated and probably killed, maybe even by friendly fire ... I'm talking COMBAT fighting for his life, the other real Service Men knew what he was, is, and will always be ... He stood in the way of the President (your President also, like it or not ) so he could not get things done that needed to be accomplished by his actions even though he did not serve ... The Office of Commander in Chief (President) does not have serving as a requirement, maybe it should but it don't ... President Trump is PRO American and probably would bleed the same as me (RED, WHITE, and BLUE) , we do not and never have let people like you of your caliber slow us down, we go over, under, or through them for the betterment of all AMERICANS (Yes, even you ) to get the job done ... Now, go away you are way out classed and have no ammo in the battle you are attempting to present ... I sincerely hope for your Family's sake you are not a Piece of Shit on the same level as J.McCain, Obama and a few of the other lower than WHALE shit people you sound like with your rants and demands ... GFYS , and find it on your own ... I say what I mean and mean what I say ... If I did not know it to be factual I would not of posted it , so prove me wrong or go away and stay away ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

    John McCain was not, is not, and will never be a man of Honor or Integrity ...
     
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  8. The Phantom

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  9. Gerald

    Gerald Mega Poster Founding Member

    When the Dems. needed just one more vote Ol' John was there.

    Regards......Gerald
     
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  10. wpt

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    Jeffery Ford: Can We Forgive John McCain for His Ultimate Sin?
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    ByJeffery Ford
    September 1, 2018at 12:54pm
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    McCain later doubled down in that same town hall meeting and said, “He’s a decent family man, a citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that’s what this campaign is all about.”

    It was enough to make many voters wonder if McCain had possibly signed a non-compete clause in order to win the Republican nomination because by any objective standard, Obama had already proven himself to be anything but a “decent person,” or a “decent family man.”

    Obama took his wife and two young daughters into church on Sundays to listen to their Reverend Jeremiah Wright spew forth anti-American rhetoric such as, “No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.” And after the Sept. 11 attacks, Reverend Wright said, “America’s chickens are coming home to roost.” Wright also once referred to the U.S.A as, “the US KKK of A.”

    Now ask yourself this: Would any truly red, white and blue “decent family man” ever want his two precious daughters to be raised in such a church?

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    And would a truly “decent man” choose (like Obama did) to have his Illinois state Senate seat campaign be launched in the home of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn? Ayers and Dohrn were two leaders of The Weather Underground, a radical, left-wing militant group that declared a state of war against the United States government. The group was responsible for a series of bombings during the 1970s that included the United States Capitol, the Pentagon, the United States Department of State building and several banks.

    Knowing all of Obama’s past, it certainly stretches credibility to believe that Republican nominee McCain was acting in good faith when he was referring to his political opponent as “a decent man” and a “decent family man.”

    McCain’s ultimate sin wasn’t his role as one of The Keating Five, nor was it any of his infuriating votes in the Senate which earned him the reputation of being a RINO (Republican In Name Only.)

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    Sen. McCain’s ultimate sin is that he was responsible for making Barack Obama the 44th president of the United States, which thereby makes McCain also partially responsible for what that occurred under Obama’s regime that weakened our nation, doubled our national debt and brought about more racial divisiveness than we had experienced in over half of a century.

    During the last ten years of his life, McCain’s actions were at times highly destructive to the United States of America whether he intended them to be or not. We will never know for sure what was in his heart and mind when he made some of the comments, choices and votes that he made.

    RELATED:Opinion: What Do McCain’s Final Words Say About Him?

    But if we as a nation have been able to forgive so many foreign countries over the years who we’ve been at war with … shouldn’t we also be able to find it in our collective soul to also forgive one of our own who may possibly have been trying to do his very best as a United States senator in service to our country?

    We need to heal as a nation and that healing can immediately begin with our finding it in our indomitable American spirit to forgive John McCain for every error in judgment he ever made. We can learn many lessons from McCain’s past actions and also from our own mistakes in nominating so many Republican candidates who are Republicans In Name Only.

    The era of Sen. McCain and the presidency of Obama are both officially over. It’s now time for us to collectively move forward into a unified and compelling future where we leave the past back in the pasture where it belongs … which from 2008-2016 would definitely be the dung heap of history.


    This about wraps it up Ladies and Gentlemen, the truth be known … WPT … (YAC) …
     
  11. The Phantom

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  12. Jakearoo

    Jakearoo Mega Poster Forum Leader

    Another nice rant. I notice it has no references to sources for any of the "facts." As usual.
    WPT, did you ever wonder why scientists and serious non-fiction writers, like Historians, put bibliographies as an appendix at the end of their books, citing the source for every single "fact" they put in their work? Do you even know what a bibliography is? Do you even know how to cite a source for the "facts" in your writing?
    Or possibly, you don't ever read serious science or non-fiction.
    You should check some out some time. Interesting stuff.
     
  13. wpt

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    Jake ,
    Reread what I said above, it pertains solely to you ... If you want information seek and you shall find like the rest of us ... Anytime you want to challenge me in a battle of wit and fact, bring money ... You speak like a fool and for some reason expect others to do your leg work, I am not the one to supply you with any extra knowledge as I plainly stated in another post ... You have the option of reading it or not, that is up to you ... Now, Go away and stay away your stinking this place up ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
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  14. Jakearoo

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    I don't expect anyone to do my leg work. But I know how to source information. And, I have been doing it professionally and very successfully for a long time. Apparently, you missed that in your education. I will give you a hint. You don't find it on internet sites which do not show the origins of their invective rants.
    But, much fun as this is WPT, I'm done with ya.
     
  15. The Phantom

    The Phantom Village Idiot Village Idiot Forum Leader

    While you are discussing "missed" "education," please note that the word "invective" is a noun, not an adjective.
     
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  16. Jakearoo

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    Correct Phantom. But I am comfortable with the declension in this case.
    The inflection of the noun as an adjective here seems appropriate to describe the nature of WPTs rants given that invective means, "insulting, abusive, or highly critical language."
    I suppose I could have said, "the origins or your ranted invective."
    Does that make you happy?
     
  17. The Phantom

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    Bwahahahahaha! Nice try.
     
  18. wpt

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    Jake,

    If you in fact know how to "source information" professionally and successfully for a long time then you obviously are afraid to seek and find the information that makes your HERO RINO anything less that a worthless non hero, anti American pathetic parasite (John McCain) that has lived his life by misleading the people of the United States, besides other country's ... I will give him a certain amount of credit being as he has not openly claimed to be a HERO, but he has not said he was not either, so he let people believe what they wanted to believe ... President Trump said it out right and in plain English that McCain was NOT a Hero by any reasonable standards, Personally, I have always felt that all the Hero's are dead ...
    I was made out to be a Hero on a few occasions for doing my job, worked "Search and Rescue " on the Fire Dept and figured all I did was my job making rescues in burning buildings ... I actually had a very mature lady come by the Fire House and thank me personally for saving her life, she was one out of many who never did come by and say thanks which was never expected or needed ... I got written up and a Departmental commendation for making a Rescue one day, made the front page of the local news paper, again for doing my job ... I guess we all see Hero's differently and on different levels, McCain never got off the basement floor in my opinion ... If you are as smart as you claim to be you will give full support to our President who has accomplished more in 18 months than Obama and his administration did in 8 years ... God Bless America ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  19. Jakearoo

    Jakearoo Mega Poster Forum Leader

    Thanks Phantom. Appreciate the accolades. Bow. take a bow.gif
     
  20. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    NOW THAT MCCAIN’S FINALLY GONE, LET’S TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH OF A HYPOCRITE HE WAS
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    Good riddance.

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    After the disgusting, vindictive “resistance meeting” I observed this weekend, I feel even more inclined to talk shit about the late Sen. John McCain. I meant to stop after the scathing piece I wrote last week about hisnon-heroic past, but after seeing his200,000 pound daughtertalk shit about my president at her dead daddy’s funeral, I’m ready for round two. And yes, I know this makes me look “small” in the eyes of some people, but who cares?


    Continuing along, remember how McCain repeatedly trashed the president’s “America First” agenda? In an op-ed he wrote in May of 2017 forThe New York Times, he reportedly “skewered” the Trumps administration’s “America First” agenda, arguing that we must intervene in other countries’ affairs no matter what the cost to us and regardless of whether intervention benefitsourinterests.

    In a speech he delivered five months later while receiving the National Constitution Center’s Liberty Medal, he likewise described President Donald Trump’s “America First” doctrine as “half-baked, spurious nationalism.”

    Listen:


    Here’s a condensed summary of that jargon via Cheryl K. Chumley ofThe Washington Times: “n layman’s, McCain was suggesting, without using Trump’s name, that Trump-style patriotism was, well, unpatriotic. In other words: Out with the Make America Great Again; in with the Nod to U.N.-style Globalism — that’s McCain’s view.”

    In other words, to hell with putting “America First,” because we need to bow to the global community’s whims, even when the global community isoff its rocker.

    And yet here’s the slogan the dead dick used during his failed 2008 election bid alongside mama grizzly Sarah Palin, adie-hard patriotwhom he purposefully disinvited from his funeral:

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    Hey....remember back in the day when @SenJohnMcCain 's slogan was COUNTRY FIRST?
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    In fairness to John McCain's failed presidential run in 2008, he didn't specify which country he was putting first.#SkinnyRepeal




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    I am old enough to remember when the McCain for President/GOP 2008 campaign slogan was Country First.





    McCain was also afrequent criticof the president’s southern border wall plan. In his “farewell statement,” the dead senator criticized Trump for hiding “behind walls rather than [tearing] them down.” Earlier this year he refused to fund the president’s wall, and last year he claimed that a border wallwouldn’t stop illegal immigration.

    Yet during the 2008 election he made it clear that he wouldn’t attempt to reform the United States’ immigration lawsunless more walls were first built along the southern border.

    “[T]he American people want our borders secured first,” he said. “That will require some walls, it will require virtual fences, it will require high-technology equipment. We must secure our borders and then we will address the issue of comprehensive immigration reform.”

    And then there’s this doozy of a campaign ad he ran during his senatorial reelection bid in 2010:


    The bitter bastard basically spent his final miserable days on Earth bitching about the president over agenda policies that weren’t necessarily too different from the policies he had touted during his own lackluster career.

    All of this suggests his attacks on Trump weren’t based on genuine policy differences but rather on McCain’s unrelenting hatred for the man who was able to do what he had failed to, which was win a damn presidential election.

    H/TThe_Donald


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    When Chuck Schumer wants to name a building after McCain what kind of a Republican could he have been.
    RINO.
     
  22. The Phantom

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  23. wpt

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    A funeral for a world that never was
    Senator John McCain’s grand funeral was also a chance for the Establishment to take one step closer to its grave
    BySPENGLERSEPTEMBER 3, 2018 12:03 PM (UTC+8)
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    A Military Honor Guard carries the casket of Senator John McCain into the Washington National Cathedral on September 1, 2018. Photo: AFP/Alex Edelman/CNP
    Funeral services are not for the benefit of the defunct, who is beyond our praise or condemnation, but for the living, who know before long that they will follow the honored dead into a cold grave.

    Senator John McCain’s funeral was the most ostentatious that Washington has accorded except for a president, and much grander than the 2006 funeral of Gerald Ford, for example. The American Establishment took the opportunity to mourn a world that it imagined but never inhabited.

    The eulogies for the Arizona senator, to be sure, were a convenient occasion for the Establishment to show its dudgeon at “the pointedly un-invited President Trump,” as theNew Yorkernoted, calling the event “the biggest resistance meeting yet.”

    McCain’s daughter Meghan contrasted what she called her father’s “real greatness” with the “cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice,” a reference to Trump. Politics, though, were less important than the American elite’s collective exercise in self-consolation after the catastrophic failure of its policies and its repudiation by the voters in the 2016 election.

    Senator McCain served his country and suffered on its behalf as a prisoner of war, and deserves respect on the occasion of his passing. But the unctuous sea of self-congratulatory declarations of virtue embedded in his obsequies were enough to make the portraits in the Capitol rotunda puke.

    Here, for example, is theChicago Tribune: “Ringing through Washington National Cathedral on a dreary morning were paeans to bipartisanship, compromise and civility of the sort that seem to be under daily assault from all corners of the country, especially from the White House … A common decency. A shared identity and values that transcend ideology, class or race. A toughness that shows itself in battle and service to nation rather than on Twitter. Each of these was touted as a key element of McCain’s epic life.”

    The un-invited president recalls the fairy tale ofSleeping Beauty, to whose christening were invited 12 of the kingdom’s 13 wise women – the palace had only 12 golden plates. Humiliated, the 13th wise woman gave the new born a curse rather than a blessing, declaring that it would prick its thumb and die.

    In its narcissism and self-adulation, the Establishment will not die of pricking of the thumb, but the other way around.

    By civility and bipartisanship, the Establishment refers to the policy consensus that squandered America’s dominant position in the world after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1990. America had no military competitors of importance when George W. Bush took office in 2001, and an edge in high technology that made the American economy seem insuperable.Since then:

    • China has taken America’s place as the leading exporter of high-tech equipment;
    • America faces credible military competition from China;
    • Real median household income hasn’t grown since 2000;
    • The civilian labor force participation rate has fallen from 67% in 2000 to 63% today;
    • Productivity growth has languished at 1% a year since the global financial crisis;
    • US federal debt has between 2000 and 2018 has doubled as a share of GDP;
    • The American economy became “cartelized, corrupt and anti-competitive,” dominated by a handful of tech monopolies who combined to crush competition.
    Bush, supported by Senator McCain and the Republican mainstream, spent$5.6 trillionchasing the phantom of democracy in the Middle East, not to mention more than 6,700 American dead, more than 50,000 wounded and millions of lives disrupted.

    That is why American voters elected Donald Trump in 2016. The bipartisan Establishment had circled the wagons to protect itself from accountability for its blunders. The same pool of public officials managed a failed foreign policy, and the same revolving door of bankers and regulators bailed out the banks.

    Not a single banker of stature was prosecuted, let alone served jail time, for the biggest financial fraud in history. So effectively had the Establishment suppressed dissent and policed its own ranks that any criticism of the Bush Administration’s “freedom agenda” meant instant ostracism.

    In 2012, Senator McCain backed the installation of aMuslim Brotherhood government in Egypt.

    In July 2013, more than 30 million Egyptians – a majority of the adult population – demonstrated against the country’s Muslim Brotherhood government. Under General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, Egypt’s military took control of the country, which was nearly out of food. Al-Sisi saved Egypt from starvation and chaos.

    Senator McCain sadly denounced the military takeover as a violation of the democratic process. Technically speaking it was a coup against an elected government, although under emergency conditions and with massive and visible popular support. So beguiled was McCain with the prospect of a democratic Islamic regime that he never accepted that his illusion had vanished.

    Sometime later I spoke with George W. Bush’s Director of Central Intelligence, General Michael Hayden. “We were sorry that [Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohamed] Morsi was overthrown” in July 2013, Hayden explained. “We wanted to see what would happen when the Muslim Brotherhood had to take responsibility for picking up the garbage.”

    “General,” I remonstrated, “when Morsi was overthrown, Egypt had three weeks of wheat supplies on hand. The country was on the brink of starvation!” “I guess that experiment would have been tough on the ordinary Egyptian,” Hayden replied.

    He wasn’t joking. Theideological commitment of the Establishmentto a new global order made facts irrelevant. If things weren’t that way, they should have been that way.

    Being an Establishment means never having to say you’re sorry. The first task of an Establishment is to insulate its inmates from the consequences of their errors. Never mind that America’s adventures in Iraq threw the Middle East into a new Thirty Years War, asI warned 10 years agoit would.

    The only senior US official to warn of the consequences of the Establishment’s blunders wasGeneral Michael Flynn, whose career has been ruined by Establishment holdouts in the intelligence community. The opportunists, careerists, ideologues and fools who ruined America’s strategic position in the world should be the continuing object of public ridicule, but they have safety in numbers.

    Because the whole of the Establishment signed on to a failed policy, the whole of it will band together to protect its right to rule.

    Twenty years ago,a reporterasked McCain if there was anyone in the Vietnam War whom he couldn’t forgive. The senator answered: “McNamara. That’s the worst to me – to know you’ve made a mistake and to do nothing to correct it while, year after year, people are dying and to do nothing to stop it, to know what your public duty is and to ignore it. I don’t think any conversation we could have would be helpful now.”

    Unlike McNamara, McCain never thought that he had made a mistake. He clung to a failed policy out of conviction. During his last years he erupted with anger at old friends who questioned his judgment on matters such as the Muslim Brotherhood. His unswerving belief in the inherent virtue of the Establishment agenda has made him the saint and martyr of the moment.

    The bright line in American policy divides the utopians who believe that America’s mission is to bringfree markets and liberal democracies to the benighted, backward nations of the world, and realists like Trump.

    Senator McCain threw his support to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt in the expectation that it would become a vehicle for Muslim democracy; Donald Trump proposed to insulate America from the problems of the Muslim world.

    McCain and Bush are Mainline Protestants, which is to say Wilsonian missionaries. Mitt Romney is the Mormon variety of the same thing.The Never-Trump neoconservatives, like Bill Kristol, John Podhoretz and the late Charles Krauthammer, played Sancho Panza to Bush’s Don Quixote.

    Trump rose to the top in the Republican primaries when he proposed to freeze immigration from some Muslim-majority countries, a stark declaration that America’s safety is what matters, not the fate of nations on the other side of the world.

    More than anything else that Trump did, the travel ban horrified the Establishment, but it won the support of60% of American voters. Trump declared in effect that the United States would rather insulate itself from problems in Muslim-majority nations than fix them. American interests would come first.

    Trump inherited a host of problems from the failed Establishment consensus. The greatest of these was the rise of China, which invested in advanced weaponry while the United States spent nearly $6 trillion on its end-of-history illusion.

    If the United States had devoted a small fraction of that $6 trillion to frontier research in military technologies, America still would be the unchallenged hyperpower.Dr Henry Kressel and this writer advocated a crash program to restore American technological dominance in a 2013 essay forThe American Interest, in a 2016 op-ed forThe Wall Street Journalandothervenues.

    Trump’s style has been obstreperous and sometimes rowdy, and he eschews the air of regal noblesse oblige that some of his predecessors brought to the Oval Office. But the hatred he elicits from the Establishment has nothing to do with style, or indeed, with any of his shortcomings: Trump is hated because the American people elected him to bury the Establishment. Last weekend the Establishment obliged by conducting burial services for itself.

    WPT … (YAC) …
     
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    Adrian Vance
    August 31, 2018

    John McCain was a far more interesting, colorful and controversial man than most Americans and hardly any journalists know. If you saw the Sunday political shows and the babel of talking heads, you would think a saint had passed on. John McCain was a man driven by two ghosts: His father and grandfather. Both were four-star Admirals in the US Navy, so John’s appointment to the US Naval Academy was foregone and his destiny, but John McCain graduated 894th in his class of 899 students. He was known for being wild, and chasing women. He was a member of a student group calling themselves, “The Bad Bunch.”

    John married Carol Shepp, a swimsuit model who had been married to one of his classmates with whom she had two children. She and McCain were parents of a daughter in that marriage. At heart a playboy, John was soon bored with domestic life, and as advancement was faster and more likely in combat, he requested active duty in Vietnam. While there, Carol stayed at home looking after the children.

    His plane was shot down in 1967 when he ignored mission instructions to stay above 15,000 feet and went “down on the deck” where he was shot down, survived and became a Prisoner Of War, a POW.

    On Christmas Eve 1969, Carol slid head-on into a telephone pole taking gifts to friends. She was thrown from the car through the front window. Her legs, spine, and right arm were crushed, and she was in the hospital for six months. Ross Perot, who was an outspoken advocate of POW’s, paid for her extensive medical bills. She requested John not be told about her condition, feeling he had enough to deal with as a POW.

    McCain was released in 1973 and returned home to much fanfare. Carol’s several surgeries cost her five inches in height, and she gained weight. McCain told reporters he was overjoyed to see Carol again. But friends said he was appalled by the change in her appearance.

    As a war hero, McCain moved in elevated circles. Reverting to his old ways he started “running around with women,” according to Robert Timberg, a retired Marine, journalist, and author of four books, including “John McCain: An American Odessy.”

    McCain admitted he started having numerous girlfriends and affairs during this time. On one trip to Hawaii, at a cocktail party, he met Anheuser Busch distributor heiress, Cindy Hensley. She was 17 years younger than McCain and worth $100 million dollars. He invited her to have drinks with him at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel. He said by the end of the evening he was in love.

    They had an affair for nine months, while he was still married and living with his wife Carol. McCain wanted to marry Cindy but needed to get a divorce. He and Carol separated in January 1980. He requested a divorce in February; the divorce was sped along and granted in April. John and Cindy married five weeks after the divorce was final on May 17, 1980. Carol and their children were devastated as he left his first wife and children behind. Meanwhile, he and Cindy moved to Arizona. Cindy’s father was well-connected and helped McCain move smoothly into Congress, representing Arizona in Washington DC. John McCain has been in Congress since 1983.

    McCain’s new wife and her family were extravagantly wealthy. Her father was one of the largest distributors of Anheuser Busch in the country, and she was an only child. The divorce settlement afforded Carol McCain full custody of their three children, alimony, and child support, including college tuition, houses in Virginia and Florida, and a lifelong financial support for her continuing medical treatment from the car accident.

    Carol said the reason for the divorce was that John turned 40 and wanted to be 25 again. Carol was extremely hurt. She went to work as the press assistant for soon-to-be First Lady Nancy Reagan. She was respected in Washington and kept a dignified silence about the way John McCain had treated her.

    Some of the McCain friends were less forgiving, however. They portray the politician as a self-centered womanizer who effectively abandoned his crippled wife to “play the field.” They accuse him of settling on Cindy, a former rodeo beauty queen with a barn full of money.

    Ever the opportunist, John McCain ran as a Republican, but spoke, voted and collaborated as a Democrat. Little wonder all the national television shows treated John McCain as a modern saint. He was not, but we can understand the “ants in his pants.” He lived haunted by his father and grandfather. Two bona fide war heroes.

    Ross Perot paid her medical bills years ago, and Carol McCain says the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel, even by the standards of modern politics. Perot said, “McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and the next glory.”

    And Cindy has also had to learn lessons about her husband the hard way. Even though she and McCain put on a perfect front for the public, especially when he is running for office, she is the invisible wife.

    Tom Gosinski, who served as the Director of Cindy McCain’s nonprofit American Voluntary Medical Team, wrote in his journal of the McCain marriage: “During my short tenure at AVMT I have been surrounded by what on the surface appears to be the ultimate all-American family. In reality, I am working for a very sad, lonely woman. Her marriage of convenience to a U.S. Senator has driven her to distance herself from friends, cover feelings of despair with drugs, and replace lonely moments with self-indulgence. She became addicted to Percocet and had a doctor prescribing them for her illegally. When her parents learned she was taking them, they helped her stop.

    Washington rumors were saying McCain had an inappropriate relationship with the young and lovely lobbyist, Vicki Iseman. Ms. Iseman began visiting McCain’s offices and campaign events so frequently in 2000 that his aides were “convinced the relationship had become romantic.” One staff member supposedly asked, “Why is she always around?”

    His staff members began a campaign to “save McCain from himself” by restricting Iseman’s access to McCain during the year 2000 Presidential Primary. According to the Washington Post, McCain’s political advisor John Weaver met with Iseman at Washington’s Union Station to tell Iseman not to see McCain anymore.

    It is not a real marriage between John and Cindy McCain Real marriages involve living together. McCain and Cindy have not “lived” together for 20 years. To defend this, McCain brags the family takes two vacations together every year and Ms. McCain is the one who has always made that happen.”

    Two vacations per year! Little of this man was real. He had no compassion or empathy for anyone except himself. The only real thing emotion he was capable of was anger. He is famous for his anger.

    His father and grandfather were both decorated Navy Admirals. He was given special privileges and extreme preferential treatment while he served in the Navy. He was a pilot but according to his colleagues, he was a bad pilot. He actually crashed three planes. There was a horrendous incident that happened on his aircraft carrier, the U.S.S. Forrestal, that killed 134 men. There has been a rolling debate since the incident and some are convinced John McCain was responsible.

    Witnesses reported McCain attempted a “wet start.” When a pilot wants to be a show-off, with a “wet start” his engine start creates a large startling flame and lots of surprise noise from the rear of a jet engine on startup. McCain did the “Wet Start.” The flames torched the launch of a Zuni rocket on the plane behind him. Zuni rockets were notorious for problems. It shot across the carrier’s deck hitting other parked planes that were packing 1,000 high-explosive pound bombs which exploded. Destruction and fire went several decks below and nearly sunk this major 82,000 ton U.S aircraft carrier.

    This stunt caused the death of 134 sailors and blew off arms, legs, and caused blindness and burns to another 161 sailors. McCain jumped from his plane, rolled across the flames, and escaped. He watched the men dying and the burning from a closed circuit television on the ship.

    The ship off line for two years in port for $76 million dollars of major repairs, not including the cost of the airplanes or ammunition. Any other Navy pilots causing this type of death and destruction would have been arrested and still be in prison, but not John McCain III. McCain was not even reprimanded. When there is a cover-up, the soldier is usually simply assigned to another ship. McCain was quietly assigned to another ship. To this day there is an ongoing debate about the incident.

    John McCain’s lack of character was further demonstrated when he voted not to repeal Obamacare. He ran his 2016 Senatorial race under the banner he would lead the fight to repeal Obamacare. But, he hates Donald Trump so much he gleefully held his thumb down for his vote rather than give a thumb up. He laughed afterward saying, “Let’s see Donald Trump save America now!”

    John McCain there stabbed his constituents and the citizens of America in the back. John McCain, Liberal Socialist Hero. RIP.



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  25. The Phantom

    The Phantom Village Idiot Village Idiot Forum Leader

    WPT,

    Thank you for posting the Adrian Vance article on John McCain. It was very informative. It is the embodiment of a perfect outline to inform and instruct any young, inexperienced political scientist as he or she goes about the arduous task of actually learning something of value.
     
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  26. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    This article is in todays Arizona Republic : 09-07-18

    A McCain exception for ‘Never speak ill of the dead’
    • The Arizona Republic
    • 7 Sep 2018
    • Your Turn Marianne Jennings Guest columnist our Marianne Jennings is professor emeritus at the W.P. Carey School of Business at Arizona State University. Reach her at mmjdiary@aol.com.
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    “Never speak ill of the dead” echoed in the mind of a minister charged with conducting an infamously wretched man’s funeral. Unable to offer any kind words, he asked the few in attendance to offer some thoughts. A man in the back rose and said, “His brother was much worse.”

    “Sullen” and “mute” are the apt adjectives for many Arizonans during the week of Sen. John McCain funerals. When the media is your constituency, you get the Princess Diana treatment. Manners and respect for the military and the dead found us biting our tongues. However, by service No. 3 or No. 4, two former presidents and a petulant McCain daughter crossed a line. The three used a funeral service to slam our current president.

    McCain, through the conduct of those chosen to speak at his funerals and the insulting language and parting shots in his final book of pettiness, gave up the shield of “speak no ill.”

    Many of us have the same difficulty with Wrong-Way McCain (a moniker for his votes and his record as a pilot) that the late John Lennon presents. Lennon lectured us to “give peace a chance” but could not get along with the three lads who took him to fame, fortune and Yoko Ono. McCain lectured us on the importance of reaching across the aisle. Yet Sen. McCain rarely put a hand out on side of the aisle.

    McCain voted against President George W. Bush’s tax cuts and was among the fiercest of Bush’s critics. He had his kindest words for his opponent in his failed presidential bid — President Barack Obama. McCain-Feingold campaign limitations were an affront to the First Amendment, something the Supreme Court found in striking down portions of them. McCain was on the other side on immigration reform and ignored letters, calls and pleas for help. With the Gang of Eight, he thumbed his nose at voters in this border state.

    His list of other legislation co-sponsored with Democrats is long, but not distinguished. A senator from Arizona sponsoring gun-control legislation? In his last re-election campaign, he duped us on repealing “Obamacare.” Without prior disclosure, he gleefully gave a thumbs-down on the Senate floor, tanking repeal in a blatant betrayal. McCain was only a Republican in election years. In between he did as he pleased and never deigned to listen to those in his own party who disagreed, labeled by him as “crazies,” “hobbits” and “bizarros.”

    During Charles Keating’s Lincoln Savings and Loan debacle, McCain’s flights and close association with the arrogant Keating were surprising and disappointing. While he deserves all due credit for his military service and his courage as a POW, such heroism is not a lifetime free pass for conduct so unbecoming an officer.

    McCain fancied himself a statesman. But is the mark of a statesman that of ignoring the people who gave him that status? He seemed to delight in embracing the other side in defiance of those he represented. Maverick was his label, but duplicity was his specialty.

    Out of respect, however, one parting thought: Sen. Jeff Flake was much worse.
     
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  28. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    Jake,

    Yes it was. How many Republicans did he invite to speak at his funeral. He was a RINO, and an was not a very trust worthy person. What you are seeing posted is not BS. It is actual knowledge coming from honorable persons. Look up some of it, you may be surprised. I know a person that taught his children, and they were afraid of him and his violent temper. Roger C.
     
  29. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Jake,
    You ever hear someone called "TWO FACED", well there you have it in spades … Rumor has it they are going to bury him 12 ft deep because everyone is good deep down … Hope you begin to see the light "Grass Hopper" … WPT … (YAC) …
     
  30. casper1000

    casper1000 Active Member

    He is definitely burning in Hell. a shitty Man who was elected by pot smoking, brainwashed peopled.
    He said "Country first" but put himself first. Him, Obama and Soros are the problems. i don't think they will retire until they completely destroy this country.
     
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