Oooops Where's The Stakes?

I noticed many 50 yard stakes were missing from the CC fields.

 

As are fields in many other places. They are meaningless unless the terrain is completely level!

 

Radar guns?

 

They were using the T-bar to set the height and a radar gun to set the speed. The targets at the CC were fine last week. The headwinds and tailwinds were affecting them, but that is to be expected.

 

I never saw the T-bar used on any Traps on the West End after Change from Doubles to Hdcp on Sunday.

GB.....................................DLS

 

During the changeover, I watched some of the crew do it on the traps at bank 5 while my son shot his practice round. Not sure why you didn't see it. Plus I asked Austin and he specifically told me they were using the T-bar and radar guns. I saw some of the setters driving around with the bars in their respective carts. Even saw setters measuring speed with a gun during shooting just to make sure.

No reason not to believe they were using them.

 

James 44 I was sitting on the porch in front of Sportsmans Den, and the traps just east of there by one complete Bank and West of there not a single T-Bar was used, only a Radar Gun

Gary Bryant...........................Dr.longshot

 

Don't know what to tell you Gary. I just know what I saw and I saw them being used.

 

Luke told me on the phone yesterday that this year the CC will be using a Radar gun and a T Bar to set targets. Brad

 

Just shoot'em where they go!

I'll never understand this anal obsession with "you have to throw them where I'm gonna shoot and they better not be too fast" whimpering.

 

I wish they would add spring so the slightest breeze doesn't move the target.

 

So if the "slightest breeze" stops the targets go beyond 51 yds. and are then illegal!

 

Its not about being legal. Just my own thoughts on the target presentation.

 

Unfortunately, you must learn a bit more on setting target speed. It is absolutely impossible to properly adjust a trap for distance with the wind blowing. I've never known wind to blow at a constant speed and I doubt you have either. I also doubt you'd be willing volunteer to adjust traps numerous times throughout the day to accommodate the wind nor should you expect others to do it either. That's why we use a radar gun and it works. Putting more spring on the trap simply means the target will be illegal and outside the required parameters when the wind stops. Think about it!

 

I hope some day I can grow up and be as smart as you.

 

Not trying to be a wise guy or suggesting the need to grow up just imparting a bit of knowledge to anyone who never set targets. You set distances and elevations over level terrain to the stake with a T bar in calm air and threaten anyone with physical harm if they touch the spring again. Elevations are then adjusted for prevailing conditions.

When terrain is less than level all bets are off and the radar gun is your best friend!

 

The hard part about adjusting elevations for prevailing conditions is that there are times when those prevailing conditions are not sustained, such as this past week at the CC. The wind would gust from the north for a few minutes making targets really soar. Then the gusts would die down and the targets would go back down.

Then on another day the wind would come out of the south forcing the targets down. But it would not stay that way for long either. It is a crap shoot sometimes. The setters were using a gun and T-bar last week. I watched them do it. After that the wind took over.

 

I was told that the 50 yard mark is where the mower stops, at the edge of the 2 fields, this way they do not have to mow around the stake. do north! the mark is the grass at the edge.

 

I believe the rules state the targets are set in still air and are only required to be reset after a machine repair or replacement. So depending on the day and the breeze, you may have higher, lower, longer or shorter targets. I know I have seen squads ask for targets to be re-set, but I think the rules don't really allow for it. Cardinal throws some fine targets, I would bet money on the fact that they use a t-bar.

 

Higher or lower resets are fine and allowed. Longer or shorter is beyond the realm of capabilities!

 

Maybe it was in the older rule book, as I cannot find it in the current book. The rules said somewhere about the re-setting of targets after the initial setting. Like everything, it is an evolutionary process, therfore it is always changing.

 

The old rulebooks state that if targets vary appreciably from one trap to the next and may affect scoring the shooter may request a reset at anytime. Shoot management makes the final judgement for resets. (1985 rulebook) I can go back much further if someone asks.

That said, this was before the introduction of the radar gun to set distances. Few clubs in PA have perfectly level terrain making stakes quite useless. Changing elevations is certainly an ongoing process when weather conditions vary!