Sub gauge barrels versus Tubes

Are the sub gauge barrels coming back for skeet and sporting clays?? Since you can get all gauges up to 32" from Krieghoff, with their pro sporter ribs and regular low ribs.

Anyone out there shooting Krieghoff pro sporter sub gauge barrels? If yes, what length are you using. I would guess 30" for skeet and 32" for sporting clays??

Tubes make the front end more heavy, but does keep the momentum. I currently use Kolar AAA sub gauge tubes 30" in a K 80 pro sporter.

 

You can buy 2 sets of ultralight tubes for the price of 1 barrel

 

simply put....yes.
people get tired of whacking bbls 100 times a match.

tubes make guns front heavy, sure; but thats why some makers have carrier bbls.
for the older guns, the weight was compensated with stock weights or recoil reducers.
most skeet shooters had adj combs added along with adj pads etc...so the front weight was never a problem with the sub ga tubes inserted. it all balanced out.
even when going back to the 12ga, makers had bbl weights to compensate.

 

I'm a carrier barrel fan.

 

I see Kolar has a Carrier BBL setup and Paxton sells new K80 carrier bbls with Briley tubes.

 

Your Kolar tubes are world-class. This isn't a "good vs. bad" choice. It's "excellent vs. excellent, but different." The best answer might be to find a buddy with a K-gun and a 32" Pro Sporter barrel and swap for a round. Your shoulders and eyes will tell you more than any forum ever could.

 

+1...^

 

never understood the weight issues on skeet guns.
most skeet gtuns are marketed to be heavy in comparison to field guns.
8lbs was/is considered normal.
99% of all skeet shooters balance and weigh (up) their guns.
everything from bbl weights, merc reducers, filling stock cavities with lead shot, heck, even wrapping golf club weight tape around bbls under the f.a.

and then they complain about heavy bbl tubes and get carriers.
odd indeed.

i personally think weight issues are just for older shooters who instead of buying a lighter gun, stick to their heavy designs and trim off the fat.

case in point, my m12 was weighed up to 9.5 for me.
now, i took it all out and shoot factory weight again.
my 3200 was 7.5 factory. tubed it, weighed 8lbs.
i added a merc, bbl weight, and spacer w/kickezz.....9lbs when done.
perfect balance. i couldnt feel the weight at all.

my k32 4 bbl is 8.2 factory. i added a merc and adj pad. it tilted butt heavy. i put a bbl weight up front. 9.5 now...but its still butt heavy. now you guys know why im looking for a 6oz kolar bbl weight!
if i put a 30" bbl on it, it balances out perfectly.

for those that dont understand why 30" bbls came into vogue...now you know.
the more junk people put on guns, the longer the bbls got.

my first k32 was a 26" purbaugh tubed gun.
i stuck a terminator pad and spacer on it fit to 14/3/4" lop and it balanced perfectly.
i swung like a charm and people with 28's were astonished.

hard to believe i lived when 26-28" was vogue.

 

The 30 Inch skeet barrels also changed the sight plane. Some feel the leads look shorter with longer barrels, the perception anyway. Plus the gun manufactures have to make changes to they can still keeping making money. If Wayne mays was still with us, he would probably be shooting his 28" Kolar.

 

yes, that was an additional benefit, but sighting has never been a problem on skeet guns.
it only became an issue when competitors started using full choke for skeet. then the sighting plane became more like a rifle, where shooters just placed the bead on the target instead of leading it. so having the longer plane made it more precise.
in other words, shooters got lazy.
sadly, the original purpose of skeet was to prepare for bird hunting and remembering leads.
not now. its just whatever it takes to win and beat the other guy with less effort.