I have an as new Seitz RH Softouch and matching forearm. A friend of mine ordered it and it took almost 7 months to get from Phil Simms. While he was waiting he found a Pro Soft set and has been using it. Put the Softouch stock on and shot 100 targets with it and decided to keep the ProSoft. He paid $6400 for this Turkish Walnut set so his loss is your gain. Stock is 14 1/4" LOP with existing pad. Was made for a # 1 or # 2 adj rib. (( $3800 Delivered to your address in the Lower 48 )) Any questions please send a conv message for info and contact # - Thanks Bob