Gov. Rauner in Chicago Tribune - Budget in April?

"When I started this process, I thought we'd probably have a compromise in the fall," Rauner told a manufacturing industry group at a luncheon this month. "It looks now, most likely January to April."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-illinois-budget-impasse-met-20151227-story.html

 

Relax


Trapwife knows the plan. Be patient.

 

She's not talking but Merlo's in position to gather any pertinent info from the Sparta Kool Aid clan members.

 

I wonder when 'too late' is for the kool aid boys. I talked to a person in the firearms industry today and they still haven't heard anything on a lease for the shooting season at Sparta. If April is the date that a deal gets done I'd think the SCTP would be addois amigos. Maybe it is the Fantastic Direction that Lynn describes and I just can't see it. I did notice the gov didn't mention the WRSC in the release. Maybe it's not at the top of his list of priorities, although I'm sure greentitian, hunter44 and Barry know otherwise.


Brad

 

Could this be Winkin, Blinkin, and Nod that you mentioned in your last post using an assumed name? Just wondering?

Dave Berlet

 

Well I can't wait till April to schedule what matches I will attend. April is too late.

 

Just guessing here, but, it appears as if the ATA has put all their eggs in Sparta, Illinois's basket, and the bottom of that basket is about to fall out. We all know the ATA is waiting, with baited breath, to hear that the Grand at the WSRC is a "go". There are basically two problems with this. Problem #1 is that the longer it takes, the less time shooters have to get prepared for it re; Vacations planned, time off, etc. Many will, and rightfully so, make other arrangements. Problem #2 is IT WILL STILL BE IN SPARTA. Home to one of the most gun unfriendly states we have, in the middle of nowhere, with a serious lack of amenities for those that may attend. The longer this drags out, the less people will care about the ATA, the Grand, and will totally lose interest in both..... Chances are that this is not going to end well. As for Brad, now is a perfect time to tell us all "I told you so".... I, for one, was listening when you warned us, as was WPT, Roger, Seitz9010, Flyerarebest, Family Guy, and a host of others. Why is it that we could see what was going to happen and the ATA could not.... Can you spell corruption or greed? Why, you must ask, did the ATA force this whole scenario down our throats only to end up exactly where we said it would.... There has to be an answer somewhere, right???

 

Until the Cat & Mouse game with the Gov. and Legislature is agreed to, nothing is going to happen.

If the state can't or hasn't paid the Lottery winners I'm sure the WSRC is low on the priority list.
A deadline until April would finish things as most people who use the Grand for their vacation, unless retired , put in their vacation request before Feb. 1st.

I wonder how many have withheld their ATA dues, waiting for something to happen? I have.



Regards....Gerald

 

The ATA ED, EC and some of the BOD have claimed numbers that have not, will not ever be realized primarily because of the location and how it was done ... The ATA EC, ED claims numbers of 10 / 20 Million generated in the region all the while the State of Illinois auditors have tabulated and realize the actual numbers regardless of the claims being made based on a guess and or wish full thinking ... I seriously doubt the ATA, ED, EC, or any of the BOD has done actual research or have a way to tabulate the actual numbers when compared to the States auditors , the State obviously got tired of hearing the same ol song time and time again all the while knowing better ... The State of Illinois has compiled a list of losses and additions to the State deficit since the opening of the WSRC (region) and can probably tell anyone who is interested exactly how much it has cost the state to do business with the ATA , all the while the ATA has increased their bank account and investments in excess of 13 million at the States (Tax payers ) expense ... The State claims to need 720 million dollars for repairs, and improvements to the State Parks which is money they do not have ... It was posted (Reboot Illinois.com) that over 22,000 people have moved out of the state due to tax increases and the inability to stay living there with yet another tax increase looming ... The State has so many issues on their agenda it would make you think the last thing they are worried or concerned about would be a play ground for trap shooters in Sparta, Ill ... Time will tell, but in reality it does not look good and the ATA, EC, ED and all the kings men couldn't put Humty together again ... (oopps) If the grand is hosted in Sparta this year one cannot imagine it being a good showing with all of the drama and uncertainty around the facility ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Dan I think a collective WE TOLD YOU SO is in order right about now, so WE TOLD YOU SO. I feel better now. I'm planning on going to the Moulton Sausage shoot on Jan 1st and then come home and watch the Buckeyes beat ND. One thing I've got going for me is that by boycotting the Grand in Sparta for 10 years it makes the prospect of NO GRAND in 2016 not that big a deal to me.

As Hillary Rodham Clinton so famously said about the four dead operators in Benghazi "What difference does it make?" Brad

 

Brad you might want to pack a few things. You might soon have a reward coming. Merlo overheard a conversation in Sparta regarding the desire some have to take you, Roger, WPT and the Doc for a long ride. I'm sure they want to express their sincere thanks and extend the olive branch.

 

Cant wait until next year. Dejavu all over again.

 

It appears some of the Principles have missed some of the scheduled meetings so the Honorable Gov. Rauner told the democrats to come up with a budget and cover some of the issues he feels strongly about and he will sign it ... So far there has been no reply and or response from across the isle, but the Governor appears to be ready to deal ... The ball is in their court (democrats) so this could go on for awhile ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Until after the election

 

Well folks, the good people who play the Illinois Lottery can't get paid for the winning lotto tickets but now the State says there will be a delay in getting State Tax refunds as well ... The State stopped sending out license (plate) renewal notices because of the cost involved, yet it generates millions of dollars in revenue ... I have talked to several people who say the real estate taxes (increases) have created a second mortgage payment in a round about way ... Gov Rauner told the democrats to present any budget that covers some of the items that he feels are not negotiable and he will sign it, to date nothing has been presented to the Governor ...

If someone runs the numbers on the ATA renting and or a temporary lease agreement of the facility known as the WSRC a rather conservative estimate would be close to or just over $900,000 (+) for the thrill of a life time and more excitement then anyone could imagine, not to mention time you will never be able to get back ... The probability of failure when things are done in desperation increase considerably according to Hoyle, but what does Hoyle know about trap shooting any way ..? This will be interesting to say the least, if the rumors are true ... Sounds like the members are going to get the Big Johnson on this one, one more time ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

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Is it time for Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner to throw in the towel? To give up on reforming Illinois, and instead agree to let House Speaker Mike Madigan and the Democrats continue to have their way in Illinois?

That seems to be what the editorial board of the Post-Dispatch is suggested in “State of dysfunction,” but it’s a terrible prescription for Illinois.

First, having a state budget isn’t a panacea for Illinois’ many troubles. If recent history has taught us anything, it is this: A bad budget can be worse than no budget.

Recall that Illinois had budgets each of the Gov. Pat Quinn years, from 2009 to 2014. With House Speaker Michael Madigan and Senate President John Cullerton’s acquiescence, those budgets were signed, sealed and delivered. And yet they failed to produce a stable government or a vibrant economy.

Instead, the continued economic and governmental instability was baked into the budgets. Even though the state was flush with federal “recovery” money in 2009 and 2010, the Legislature had to borrow billions to make the pension payments. A massive state income tax hike in 2011 took an extra week’s pay from working Illinoisans, but operating deficits continued to be rolled forward. Illinois suffered 12 downgrades from the three major rating agencies and the pension debt increased by $20 billion.


Last year’s budget alone set up a $300 million deficit just for the state’s day care subsidy program. In the final months before the new governor came into office, the deficit grew to $5.8 billion in December 2014, up from $4.1 billion in September 2014.

Now, on to the economy: Illinois had the worst employment recovery from the Great Recession of any state. When Quinn left office, 220,000 fewer Illinoisans were working than before the Great Recession began — landing Illinois the worst record in the U.S., according to data from the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. Illinois was the only state in the region that added more people to the food stamps rolls than jobs market.

The number of taxpayers who moved out of Illinois and to another state increased dramatically after the 2011 income tax increase. According to the Internal Revenue Service, on net Illinois lost one taxpayer every 10 minutes in 2011; by 2013, the rate of out-migration from Illinois accelerated to one taxpayer person leaving every 6.5 minutes. Altogether, Illinois lost a net 200,000 people and $10.4 billion in taxable income from 2011 through 2013, the IRS reported.




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This was all before Gov. Rauner took office, and this was all with year after year of unbalanced budgets pushed forward by Madigan, Cullerton and the Illinois political class. Former Republican governors Jim Thompson and Jim Edgar — both of whom the Post-Dispatch mentioned in its editorial — were complacent, too, in pushing unfunded liabilities onto the taxpayers. Edgar’s “pension ramp” plan forced taxpayers to pay increasing contributions to the pensions systems each year starting in 1996 and still increasing today. By 2045, taxpayers will be contributing $16.8 billion.

The Post-Dispatch also mentioned the recent credit rating downgrade by Moody’s as evidence that Rauner’s approach isn’t working. It failed to mention that under Quinn, Illinois’ credit rating was downgraded 12 times. And this was during a time when there was no so-called budget “stasis” because Democrats controlled the governor’s mansion as well as both chambers of the Illinois Legislature.

The moral of the story: Bad budgets set the stage for bad results. Illinois’ woes did not begin during the last nine months with Rauner as governor, but during the last several decades of Madigan, Cullerton and the rest of the status-quo political establishment. The decades of mismanagement in Illinois cannot be fixed in one month, one year or possibly even in one term.

Instead of criticizing those stepping up to rescue Illinois, the Post-Dispatch editorial board should focus its ire on the intransigent relics who insist on business as usual.

Kristina Rasmussen is executive vice president of the Illinois Policy Institute.

 

Before you know it April will be here. I know Rauner did not say the 1st of April. Could be he meant the last day of April. Then Illinois can start wondering about the following year. Another election, another budget, more corrupt politicians. Groundhog day again and again and again.